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(07-01-2021, 08:39 AM)PaulP link Wrote:69 cases of TTS from 4.8M doses. That's pretty low risk IMO. Still limited information coming to us about pre existing illnesses, health status etc. of the unlucky 69. To my reading, those numbers don't indicate that we should forego the vaccine and choose a White King Frappe instead. There's definitely a risk, but there is with anything in life, even the Pfizer. It's a major problem IMO that big numbers of AZ doses are being wasted when way too many in developing countries don't have any vaccines at all.
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(07-01-2021, 08:39 AM)PaulP link Wrote:69 cases of TTS from 4.8M doses. That's pretty low risk IMO. Still limited information coming to us about pre existing illnesses, health status etc. of the unlucky 69. To my reading, those numbers don't indicate that we should forego the vaccine and choose a White King Frappe instead. There's definitely a risk, but there is with anything in life, even the Pfizer. It's a major problem IMO that big numbers of AZ doses are being wasted when way too many in developing countries don't have any vaccines at all. Thats all fine as long as its not you or a loved one who lucks out....my daughters MIL has a clot behind her eye and is partially blind in that eye, she has been told no to any of the available vaccines by her specialist.
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(07-01-2021, 08:57 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Thats all fine as long as its not you or a loved one who lucks out....my daughters MIL has a clot behind her eye and is partially blind in that eye, she has been told no to any of the available vaccines by her specialist.
I agree. Nobody wants to admit it, but sometimes in life you get unlucky. I'd be pretty pissed if I or one of my loved ones was one of those 69, but not pissed with the science or the vaccines, just pissed with the firmament, and lucking out big time. The vaccines do way more good than harm, but no doubt there are casualties along the way. I wish it weren't the case.
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(06-28-2021, 05:00 AM)capcom link Wrote:I don't know of anyone who's been turned away from receiving a jab and 25 million doses were ordered in April and May 2021. So who is this Annandale dickhead?
My wife was told today that they had run out of pfizer so she couldn't get vaccinated.
I'm tipping she wasn't the only one.
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Reminds me of arguments about compulsory seat belts. Opponents seized on the freak cases where someone not wearing a seat belt was thrown clear of a car that burst into flames after a crash to say that it should be up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.
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(07-01-2021, 08:57 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Thats all fine as long as its not you or a loved one who lucks out....my daughters MIL has a clot behind her eye and is partially blind in that eye, she has been told no to any of the available vaccines by her specialist. All the more reason why the rest of us should be getting the vaccines, to protect people who genuinely cannot!
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(07-01-2021, 08:37 AM)Baggers date Wrote:...the woman had another very serious and recent underlying health condition, and UK authorities have ordered a post-mortem to assess whether this condition, along with the impact of long plane and car travel from Australia to the UK, had a role in her death...
Serious underlying health issues and boards a long haul flight after AZ vaccination! For those who do not travel internationally, passengers do not need a vaccination to die of thrombosis on a international flight, it's a real known risk and high altitude flying is probably the most common cause of DVT other than being bed ridden.
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(07-01-2021, 08:57 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Thats all fine as long as its not you or a loved one who lucks out....my daughters MIL has a clot behind her eye and is partially blind in that eye, she has been told no to any of the available vaccines by her specialist.
Don't like to read that [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member] ... worrying. My best.
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(07-01-2021, 09:16 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I agree. Nobody wants to admit it, but sometimes in life you get unlucky. I'd be pretty pissed if I or one of my loved ones was one of those 69, but not pissed with the science or the vaccines, just pissed with the firmament, and lucking out big time. The vaccines do way more good than harm, but no doubt there are casualties along the way. I wish it weren't the case. A fair assessment....
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(07-01-2021, 09:59 AM)Mav link Wrote:Reminds me of arguments about compulsory seat belts. Opponents seized on the freak cases where someone not wearing a seat belt was thrown clear of a car that burst into flames after a crash to say that it should be up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.
Yep, 1970. Sir Arthur Rylah and 1st country in the world to do it.
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