CV and mad panic behaviour

[capcom]

Food for thought most of today's espionage end up being false flag attacks.

The Spanish flu was only named the Spanish flu because Spain was the first country to report on it.

Many believe it was in Kansas ... but safe to say that with next to no commercial passenger air travel, many many millions more would have died. 

[DJC]

Many believe it was in Kansas ... but safe to say that with next to no commercial passenger air travel, many many millions more would have died. 

Apparently reporting of “Spanish” flu was suppressed by the warring nations.  As Spain wasn’t involved in the war, its media was free to report anything.

While there was no air travel, tens of thousands of military personnel were transported to and from the war.  Returning servicemen brought the virus to Australia.

[LP]

Apparently reporting of “Spanish” flu was suppressed by the warring nations.  As Spain wasn’t involved in the war, its media was free to report anything.

While there was no air travel, tens of thousands of military personnel were transported to and from the war.  Returning servicemen brought the virus to Australia.

Yes, one current hypothesis is that Spanish Flu actually started in the USA or at least accelerated there, it may have come out of Sth America or Africa, more importantly there is also some strong evidence that if the USA had been forthright in reporting the Spanish Flu rather than hiding it for political/military reasons millions might have been saved. Which seems ironic given the current argy bargy about China.

China's political position is interesting, even though it has technology and manufacturing capacity it has almost no resources that it needs to take advantage of it's other strengths, some analysts claim the only way forward for China on this trajectory is war and I'm sure nobody wins that! They also have huge domestic problems, a rapidly aging population and massive domestic debt that will almost certainly default if not on technical grounds then cultural grounds.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Greg Hunt being forced to order a review into the CSIRO and their involvement in the Wuhan Bat research along with some Aus Uni's.The CSIRO have been caught telling porkies about live bat's being used and Matt Canavan won't let it go in the Senate.
The idea that Aus taxpayer money has been used to assist these Chinese researchers in return for what I don't know and has been covered up is disgraceful.
Uni's here will sell their soul for the Chinese money so that doesn't surprise me they are involved.
Let's hope its not another sham like the Who investigation was in Wuhan.

[LP]

Greg Hunt being forced to order a review into the CSIRO and their involvement in the Wuhan Bat research along with some Aus Uni's.The CSIRO have been caught telling porkies about live bat's being used and Matt Canavan won't let it go in the Senate.
The idea that Aus taxpayer money has been used to assist these Chinese researchers in return for what I don't know and has been covered up is disgraceful.
Uni's here will sell their soul for the Chinese money so that doesn't surprise me they are involved.
Let's hope its not another sham like the Who investigation was in Wuhan.

We don't need to assist China, nor does CSIRO, we are beholding to them and they place(unwilling) operatives inside Australian Institutions dressed up as students and colleagues, they have had the keys to the cellar for decades. I've been involved in at least two major projects that saw all the IP stolen and funnelled to China, the only defence we have against it is international patents, but China doesn't really care as it's theft is used in it's domestic market and to supply a handful of sympathetic countries like Taiwan, Nth Korea, Malaysia and even hypocritically the Philippines. Big data is changing this game, because it's now become ridiculously easy to find plagiarism and IP theft, the concept of the digital canary trap.

[madbluboy]

SA to announce restrictions tomorrow because they have 3 cases in quarantine lol.

[flyboy77]

It's a bed shitting exercise.

Across the nation.

[DJC]

Greg Hunt being forced to order a review into the CSIRO and their involvement in the Wuhan Bat research along with some Aus Uni's.The CSIRO have been caught telling porkies about live bat's being used and Matt Canavan won't let it go in the Senate.
The idea that Aus taxpayer money has been used to assist these Chinese researchers in return for what I don't know and has been covered up is disgraceful.
Uni's here will sell their soul for the Chinese money so that doesn't surprise me they are involved.
Let's hope its not another sham like the Who investigation was in Wuhan.

Greg Hunt ordering an enquiry into CSIRO?  That's weird because Christian Porter is the responsible Minister ... but then, the report is in a Murdoch paper.

It's interesting to hear what CSIRO has to say:

Following two articles which appeared in The Australian on 25 June 2021 (CSIRO, unis in 10 joint research projects with Wuhan lab and Gain-of-function research risks), as the Chief Executive of Australia’s national science agency it is important your readers have the facts about the CSIRO and our research. Accusations around lack of transparency are both misinformed and offensive to the researchers who have worked to safeguard Australia for the last century.

Since the pandemic began, our researchers have worked tirelessly to help protect Australia. This has included pre-clinical testing of potential vaccines, tracking emerging variants of concern, monitoring wastewater to detect hotspots, and supporting domestic manufacturing and testing of surgical masks. This is in addition to our regular work protecting Australia from a host of other diseases like avian flu, zika, white spot prawn, and foot and mouth disease.

CSIRO has never shied away from talking about its research, including with bats. This research underpins much of our understanding of infectious diseases, and enabled us to help create a successful vaccine to treat Hendra virus. All our infectious disease research is conducted in line with strict ethical, biosecurity and regulatory requirements. All research is fully transparent and publicly available.

Our involvement in bat research was first raised by Ms Markson early last year. On 28 April 2020 I issued a statement (Statement from CSIRO regarding bat research) that acknowledged that research into bats underpins much of our understanding of zoonotic diseases, but that we don’t currently undertake research on live bats at the Australian Centre for Disease Preparedness (ACDP).

Like people, bats are mammals, except unlike people, bats can carry viruses like Ebola, rabies or SARS, without becoming sick. Understanding more about the immune system of bats, the viruses they may carry, and how these viruses affect them, holds huge potential for how we might be able to protect Australians.

Infectious diseases need a global response. CSIRO has worked with China, the US and other countries on bat research because bat viruses in Asia pose a threat to Australia. CSIRO also works with the US, Japan, Malaysia, France, Indonesia, India, the UK and PNG on a range of other infectious diseases. All of this is done to help protect Australians from potential future pandemics. The speed of the global response to COVID-19 has been attributed to excellent international scientific collaboration.

The ACDP is internationally recognised as a world class, global laboratory, and is one of Australia’s major defence systems against the increasing threat of infectious diseases. I am proud of the work that our teams at this facility do to keep Australians safe.

As the national science agency, we support the pursuit of knowledge, whether that be by scientists, the public or media, however this reporting is speculative and misleading. The Australian’s readers and our public deserve better.

Dr Larry Marshall
Chief Executive, CSIRO

I think that I will place my trust in CSIRO rather than the anti-science organs of the Oligarch.

[flyboy77]

Greg Hunt ordering an enquiry into CSIRO?  That's weird because Christian Porter is the responsible Minister ... but then, the report is in a Murdoch paper.

It's interesting to hear what CSIRO has to say:

I think that I will place my trust in CSIRO rather than the anti-science organs of the Oligarch.

Nothing to do with the science, all about the politics...just like the bug.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Greg Hunt ordering an enquiry into CSIRO?  That's weird because Christian Porter is the responsible Minister ... but then, the report is in a Murdoch paper.

It's interesting to hear what CSIRO has to say:

I think that I will place my trust in CSIRO rather than the anti-science organs of the Oligarch.

Not really weird given Christian Porter might have a few more problems than the CSIRO's participation in live bat research with the Chinese with an issue of a legal nature hanging over his head.
The CSIRO issued a statement they didn't have any involvement in live bat research but later after being caught out lying the Chief Operating Officer had to admit it was true.
The answers provided to Senator Matt Canavan indicated involvement in the main with Hendra virus research but in fact the CSIRO had been involved in research with the infamous Bat lady since 2010 with the Covid virus. Of course all roads lead back to Anthony Fauci who supported gain of function research and didn't tell senior White House officials he was lifting the ban on that type of research.
Fauci in 2012 said that this type of research could cause a pandemic.. He wrote in the American society for Microbiology, he said the benefits outweighed the risks.
Given all that I think its reasonable to be skeptical and wanting some answers but I dont expect the truth to come out given all the politics involved.