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CV and mad panic behaviour
(06-14-2021, 12:24 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Absurdity is just an arbitrary line someone drew.
It's a very specific point of debate in philosophy and math.

If you want to argue the absurd you have to look at all aspects and not cherry-pick specific features, the global effects.

For example, if you want to argue 10kph reduces deaths, then you have to look at the effect of 10kph on all deaths, not just road deaths. Like if the emergency services could only travel at 10kph, or if food delivery only operated at 10kph, or if disaster relief vehicles only travelled at 10kph, or the effects of increased emissions per kilometre, etc., etc., etc..

Much like the COVID-19 restrictions, the speed limits are applied in very specific circumstances, and not globally as the absurd argument suggests.
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(06-14-2021, 12:45 AM)LP link Wrote:It's a very specific point of debate in philosophy and math.

If you want to argue the absurd you have to look at all aspects and not cherry-pick specific features, the global effects.

For example, if you want to argue 10kph reduces deaths, then you have to look at the effect of 10kph on all deaths, not just road deaths. Like if the emergency services could only travel at 10kph, or if food delivery only operated at 10kph, or if disaster relief vehicles only travelled at 10kph, or the effects of increased emissions per kilometre, etc., etc., etc..

Much like the COVID-19 restrictions, the speed limits are applied in very specific circumstances, and not globally as the absurd argument suggests.

You realise you are making the exact point i was making.  Big Grin
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(06-14-2021, 12:48 AM)kruddler date Wrote:You realise you are making the exact point i was making.  Big Grin
Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression, I'm not really discussing anyone's specific points, in fact I haven't read much of any of that discussion. I saw a few absurd claims so I thought I'd discuss reduction to absurdity, it's quite useful around here.
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I’m not going to play Jenga with you guys. Seems you’re able to take out all of the bottom blocks but still your top blocks remain in place.

Let’s have a lockdown where for businesses it’s business as usual and where there are no restrictions placed on mixing socially. That should work ...

As epidemiologists have often said, you might be done with Covid but Covid isn’t done with you. People may become complacent and frustrated but Covid doesn’t let up.

As for consistency, that’s overrated. If you want complete consistency, get a computer. Humans are notoriously hard to organise and finding loopholes is the national pastime. Reminds me of Fatprick Smith who argued that the AFL had to outlaw taking pack marks with the knee raised if it were to be consistent with its attempts to protect the head in tackles and bumps. Gimme a break!

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(06-14-2021, 01:04 AM)Mav link Wrote:I’m not going to play Jenga with you guys. Seems you’re able to take out all of the bottom blocks but still your top blocks remain in place.

Let’s have a lockdown where for businesses it’s business as usual and where there are no restrictions placed on mixing socially. That should work ...

As epidemiologists have often said, you might be done with Covid but Covid isn’t done with you. People may become complacent and frustrated but Covid doesn’t let up.

As for consistency, that’s overrated. If you want complete consistency, get a computer. Humans are notoriously hard to organise and finding loopholes is the national pastime. Reminds me of Fatprick Smith who argued that the AFL had to outlaw taking pack marks with the knee raised if it were to be consistent with its attempts to protect the head in tackles and bumps. Gimme a break!

I agree.
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(06-14-2021, 01:04 AM)Mav link Wrote:I’m not going to play Jenga with you guys. Seems you’re able to take out all of the bottom blocks but still your top blocks remain in place.

Let’s have a lockdown where for businesses it’s business as usual and where there are no restrictions placed on mixing socially. That should work ...

As epidemiologists have often said, you might be done with Covid but Covid isn’t done with you. People may become complacent and frustrated but Covid doesn’t let up.

As for consistency, that’s overrated. If you want complete consistency, get a computer. Humans are notoriously hard to organise and finding loopholes is the national pastime. Reminds me of Fatprick Smith who argued that the AFL had to outlaw taking pack marks with the knee raised if it were to be consistent with its attempts to protect the head in tackles and bumps. Gimme a break!
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Yes, but only vegetarian Salami. Your arteries will thank me.
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(06-14-2021, 12:53 AM)LP link Wrote:Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression, I'm not really discussing anyone's specific points, in fact I haven't read much of any of that discussion. I saw a few absurd claims so I thought I'd discuss reduction to absurdity, it's quite useful around here.

You love jumping into arguments you don't understand.

You could save everyone some time if you just read a little more before you jumped in.  Wink
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(06-14-2021, 02:10 AM)kruddler date Wrote:You love jumping into arguments you don't understand.

You could save everyone some time if you just read a little more before you jumped in.  Wink
I didn't jump into the debate, you referred to what is fundamentally a reduction to absurdity as logic, and I pointed out in my reply post it's philosophy, whatever subject you were debating was irrelevant at that point.
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(06-14-2021, 03:08 AM)LP link Wrote:I didn't jump into the debate, you referred to what is fundamentally a reduction to absurdity as logic, and I pointed out in my reply post it's philosophy, whatever subject you were debating was irrelevant at that point.
Whatever floats your boat.

You jumped into the debate, touted some philosophical nonsense and then agreed with what i was saying citing you didn't even know what was being debated.
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