CV and mad panic behaviour

[madbluboy]

Had my 5th covid test today and they did it differently. 2 swabs on each side of the throat and up each nostril, those nanobots will be taking over my body soon.

[LP]

[member=153]LP[/member] I am talking now.

If people are thumbing their noses at the outbreak like you asserted earlier, we should see this happening frequently amongst the dissenters to use your own language.

Then that is the case [member=122]Mav[/member] refers to, community transmission from a couple of elderly tourists, who eventually presented as unwell. We are perhaps lucky they became unwell enough to present, what if they hadn't?

But I'm not sure they are the root cause, I believe they are a secondary group infected from the returned driver.

Not everybody will become so unwell to require hospitalisation. COVID-19 has a spectrum of illness, perhaps the worse case for transmission would be an initial group of moderately ill individuals who ignored testing and rocked up for work regardless. Like the infamous Portsea set, claiming that it's just a cold while having their own house retrofit with a private ICU!

[madbluboy]

Delta strain came from hotel quarantine here in Melbourne, no one to blame this time.

[Mav]

Really? How about Scotty from Marketing? The Australian Constitution specifically states the Federal Parliament has power over quarantine. The Quarantine Act allows the government to quarantine persons flying into Australia. But this Government pulled a Trump and left it to the States to do its job. And then bitched and moaned about being asked to fund fit-for-purpose facilities.

The very first repatriation flight into Melbourne had a Sri Lankan man who was infected with the Delta variant. And he goes to a hotel rather than a quarantine facility. How predictable was that?

Don’t forget that the South Australian hotel quarantine system infected a man returning to Victoria. This isn’t a Victorian issue: it’s a hotel quarantine issue.

[madbluboy]

Why are we the covid state?

[Mav]

So you’re blaming the South Australians now ...

[ElwoodBlues1]

Why are we the covid state?

Lack of funding in health management, like I said NSW didnt cut their budget and had decent numbers of trained healthcare staff involved in tracing, we have airline workers, clerks and tax drivers doing it for bingo money.
Quarantine was Dan again doing it his way instead of taking up the offer of military/police help, his private security firm staff were too busy screwing the Quaranteeny's and letting them out on the town..and the company hit us up for a couple of mill into the bargain. Just been one feck up after another.....sort of stuff you expect in a 3rd world crap hole like Peru. The other States dont trust us either.. a couple of cases here and they lock the borders real quick because they know Dan and team will be struggling to contain an outbreak.

[Thryleon]

Then that is the case [member=122]Mav[/member] refers to, community transmission from a couple of elderly tourists, who eventually presented as unwell. We are perhaps lucky they became unwell enough to present, what if they hadn't?

But I'm not sure they are the root cause, I believe they are a secondary group infected from the returned driver.

Not everybody will become so unwell to require hospitalisation. COVID-19 has a spectrum of illness, perhaps the worse case for transmission would be an initial group of moderately ill individuals who ignored testing and rocked up for work regardless. Like the infamous Portsea set, claiming that it's just a cold while having their own house retrofit with a private ICU!

For every 1 admission, there would be how many people confirmed positive LP?

How far does this spread before it actually shows up, and when you consider that for a moment, ponder a scenario where we are talking about Dissenters, who protest in the city, refuse to wear a mask, dont hand hygiene, to check in with QR codes, and in general, dont get vaccinated.  They spread this virus how far and wide, and dont get tested, which results in further outbreaks and infections that are borderline traceable.

We should see "a lot" of spot fires popping up.  We arent, we just had 73 days without a positive case.

[Mav]

Quarantine was Dan again doing it his way instead of taking up the offer of military/police help

Police help? The police commissioner made it clear the police were only prepared to be the 2nd line of defence, i.e. if someone escaped from quarantine, they’d find them and bring them back. Other than that, they were involved in the “ring of steel” to keep Melburnians from fleeing to regional areas. As for the military, it seemed Scotty from Marketing was quite willing to use them as political pawns, threatening to pull them out if Victoria didn’t toe the Federal government’s line on lockdowns and the like. He refused to honour a request for a nominated number of soldiers at one stage to man the borders.

And yes, there should be more funding for health and in particular pandemic preparedness. That’s what happens when Jeff Kennett’s Razor gangs cut things to the bone in the health system.

[capcom]

.... yet we never got a decent investigation into Victoria's farkups .... Like a RC

It's always been and continues to be someone else's fault.