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(03-17-2021, 09:12 PM)LP link Wrote:[member=827]capcom[/member] Remember the Aircraft are flying virus tin cans debate, you know the general publics perception of that is wrong because you know about aircraft ventilation and how much engineering and science goes into it.
But if you want the science details, it turns out that opening windows or increasing ventilation in conjunction with social distancing decreases the possible transmission of the virus by 50% to 70%. There is some nice research done on this by Cath Noakes if you care to search her name and read it you'll be surprised how beneficial clean airflow is. Not that it is new, the actual concept has been around since Florence Nightingale.
Thanks LP ... given the air is purged / renewed / recycled every 90 seconds for the entire cabin, it was a complete nonsense discussion from the beginning.
Not always the case though with less than modern aircraft. Got stuck in FCL on an Aer Lingus 747 in 1978 with an obnoxious Irishman smoking fat cigars 2 rows behind me. The whole joint stunk.
So I kicked up my own stink. It worked 
Yes, I'm aware of Noakes work. She sure knows her stuff.
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(03-17-2021, 08:43 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:50% capacity for the G.
70% capacity for indoor movie theatres.
Who are these buffoons?
Well, I don't know how it happened, but I find myself in 100% agreement with you. I may need a therapist  . This arbitrary figure of 50%, for an outdoor venue, compared to other public gathering places, etc., defies logic. Does 60% or more suddenly and dramatically increase risk exponentially? Nuh.
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03-18-2021, 12:01 AM
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Latest cohort studies from Scotland, released in early March this year, using the entire Scottish population of 5.4M people, also a double blind study with 1.2M vaccinated and 1.2M unvaccinated people.
Both COVID-19 vaccines, 50/50 Pfizer and AstraZeneca, reduced severe infections by 85% on average just 7 days after receiving the vaccines, and reduced hospital admissions by 90%.
At 28 days Pfizer exhibited 85% efficacy, AstraZeneca exhibited 92% efficacy. This is predicted based on how the various vaccines work, antibody which is short term or Memory T-Cell which is long term.
Even better news, both vaccines have been shown to also inhibit transmission in populations older than 65 years, by between 40% and 70%.
Search = Aziz Sheikh, Edinburgh University; Mike Weekes, Cambridge University and Addenbrooke's Hospital
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(03-17-2021, 10:49 PM)DJC link Wrote:The ramifications of political interference in the AstraZeneca vaccine rollout are being exposed:
Drosten. You quote Drosten?
You've been sucked in by the spin masters David.
He's one of the great shills for the 'industry'!
https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/
Read that and weep.
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03-18-2021, 12:53 AM
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If you thought the EU AstraZeneca situation wasn't political, look at the developments overnight.
- First off, a week or so ago, many EU countries state AstraZeneca is suspended it's no good we don't want it.
- Now overnight, many of the same countries, if AstraZeneca keep exporting it we are going to seize the factories, we are in crisis we need it desperately!
It sounds like the original suspension was more about scaring off non-EU suitors, like a troll hugging his dinner refusing to share, "you don't want that stuff it'll kill you only trolls can eat it!
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(03-17-2021, 10:49 PM)DJC date Wrote:The ramifications of political interference in the AstraZeneca vaccine rollout are being exposed:
Ian Jones, a professor of virology at Britian’s Reading University, said the blood clot issue had “been picked up by politicians who don’t know one side of a virus from another”. Love it, so so true!
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(03-18-2021, 12:50 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:Drosten. You quote Drosten?
You've been sucked in by the spin masters David. [member=109]flyboy77[/member] I don't think [member=324]DJC[/member] has been sucked in by anybody!
Shill is an interesting term to use, does it feel like a mirror?
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The EU is in blind panic. Its vaccination program is in disarray and infection rates are not under control. Who to blame???
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(03-18-2021, 01:02 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:The EU is in blind panic. Its vaccination program is in disarray and infection rates are not under control. Who to blame??? The EU's erratic behaviour is fodder for the paranoid.
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(03-18-2021, 01:16 AM)LP link Wrote:The EU's erratic behaviour is fodder for the paranoid. The erratic behaviour of the rest of the world at the start of this pandemic was similar. Those that had the 'everything will be fine' attitude were left regretting it.
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