CV and mad panic behaviour

[LP]

I see. Thanks. My wife has been getting them for 15 years or so. She has no idea of the manufacturers, but she's never had any issues.

That's the way this stuff rolls, being lucky or unlucky is a complex issue!

[PaulP]

That's the way this stuff rolls, being lucky or unlucky is a complex issue!

Yes, as I mentioned yesterday, it's interesting that most folks would not have a clue about manufacturers, efficacy rates etc. of flu vaccines, and are quite prepared to get the jab every year, yet there is a great big hullabaloo about the covid vaccine. 

[LP]

Yes, as I mentioned yesterday, it's interesting that most folks would not have a clue about manufacturers, efficacy rates etc. of flu vaccines, and are quite prepared to get the jab every year, yet there is a great big hullabaloo about the covid vaccine.

Ironically, the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines are closer in technology to the traditional Influenza vaccine than Pfizer and Moderna which are both completely new technologies, yet the sceptics want the "Trusted Pfizer." Go figure! :o

Personally I don't care which one I get, any procedure can harm you, but the chances are very very low of you being unlucky with any of the offered vaccines, they are functionally the same. That is an unequivocal truth exposed by the statistics. The cynics are almost infinitely more likely to choke on their own lunch today, be killed driving to work, slip in the shower or have a stroke while taking a dump, but they won't stop eating, driving, scrubbing or crapting!

[flyboy77]

Ironically, the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines are closer in technology to the traditional Influenza vaccine than Pfizer and Moderna which are both completely new technologies, yet the sceptics want the "Trusted Pfizer." Go figure! :o

Personally I don't care which one I get, any procedure can harm you, but the chances are very very low of you being unlucky with any of the offered vaccines, they are functionally the same. That is an unequivocal truth exposed by the statistics. The cynics are almost infinitely more likely to choke on their own lunch today, be killed driving to work, slip in the shower or have a stroke while taking a dump, but they won't stop eating, driving, scrubbing or crapting!

Speaking of probabilities, what is the chance of an otherwise healthy unvaccinated person becoming severely ill or worse from the virus in Australia?

Less than a shark attack for all age demographics. Even the uber oldies (in this country).

So, where does the risk/reward balance sit?

And don't start on the BS that is asymptomatic transmission.....

[cookie2]

There appears to be a huge political storm going on between the UK and EU over the AZ vaccine which I won't elaborate on here. Net outcome looks like a global undermining of confidence in the AZ vaccine leaving the field open to mainly Pfizer and Sputnik V. Fascinating.

[madbluboy]

Yes, as I mentioned yesterday, it's interesting that most folks would not have a clue about manufacturers, efficacy rates etc. of flu vaccines, and are quite prepared to get the jab every year, yet there is a great big hullabaloo about the covid vaccine. 

Don't mention the fact that 13 nations in Europe have paused the use of AstraZ.

[madbluboy]

Half of them are on the news or website videos getting AstraZeneca, another bunch of them yesterday.

That tinfoil you keep offering people might be getting absorbed through your skin, you're not using the old fashioned lead type are you! ;D

At my mother in laws' hospital that she works at all the doctors got the Pfizer. She's a food monitor so she has been told that she gets the AstraZ, same as the cleaners.

[ElwoodBlues1]

There appears to be a huge political storm going on between the UK and EU over the AZ vaccine which I won't elaborate on here. Net outcome looks like a global undermining of confidence in the AZ vaccine leaving the field open to mainly Pfizer and Sputnik V. Fascinating.

The Sputnik also doubles as a hair restorer and fuel injector cleaner..

[kruddler]

Half of them are on the news or website videos getting AstraZeneca, another bunch of them yesterday.

That tinfoil you keep offering people might be getting absorbed through your skin, you're not using the old fashioned lead type are you! ;D

Its funny how you continue to push the barrow that oversees governments are banning it....citing disinformation and secret agendas...

...at the same swallowing everything you are being fed by ours with an empty bowl asking "please sir, can i have some more".

Hypocrisy.

[kruddler]

At my mother in laws' hospital that she works at all the doctors got the Pfizer. She's a food monitor so she has been told that she gets the AstraZ, same as the cleaners.

Further to what i just wrote above, and earlier to Pauly...

Why do you think the above occurs if they are the same?
Why are the general public not told what version they will be getting?

They both might be equally effective and do their job, with 1 slightly better.
It might be the difference between a BMW and Mercedes. same same but different.

OR

It might be a Datsun 120y they are offering instead and they don't want to tell you about what you are missing out on.