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(03-10-2021, 10:04 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:The science shows its perfectly fine and any "other" reactions are due to correlation not causation...
NOTE: I am being deliberately facetious when I state that. I expect no honesty when there is so much at stake globally. What I find really interesting is that a country like Greece has been vaccinating already, and yet we are seeing a 3rd wave daily spike as high as ever.
Is there a difference between "mainstream" science and "proper" science and how can we tell the difference. when political agendas are in play?
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(03-10-2021, 08:28 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:A few politicians have decided to get the AstraZ to show that it's safe including Greg Hunt who is now in hospital with an "infection". A bacterial infection.
To date, more than 320 million doses of COVID vaccine have now been issued globally with zero attributed deaths!
All the vaccines show 100% efficacy when preventing severe cases of SARS-CoV-2. Effectiveness at preventing transmission is still unknown and will be unknown for many more weeks or months.
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(03-10-2021, 10:04 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:The science shows its perfectly fine and any "other" reactions are due to correlation not causation...
NOTE: I am being deliberately facetious when I state that. I expect no honesty when there is so much at stake globally. What I find really interesting is that a country like Greece has been vaccinating already, and yet we are seeing a 3rd wave daily spike as high as ever. To date Greece has hardly vaccinated anybody, and most of the vaccinations have come in the last 30 days, it takes 2 to 4 weeks for vaccinations to build T-Cell memory and immunity.
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Sunrise’s caption:
Sick Hunt in Hospital : 
It’s not surprising that media outlets are running the line, “his condition is not believed to be linked to receiving a COVID vaccine.” Responsible journalism would see the statement, “Minister Hunt has a bacterial infection that is not linked to his recent COVID vaccination.”
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Not buying it. With rushed vaccines you're going to have problems and AstraZ has problems.
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(03-10-2021, 11:05 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:Not buying it. With rushed vaccines you're going to have problems and AstraZ has problems. You don't have to buy it, it's free, cheaper than a funeral! 
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What concerns me is the fact that we’re 75% behind the vaccination target set by Scotty from marketing - presumably on advice from health officials.
While there’s no great urgency from a public health perspective, provided folk can cope with further lockdowns, economic recovery is very much linked to the certainty provided by immunity.
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I'm happy with that, especially with concerns over the Astrazenca vaccine in other countries.
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Just to quote LP from a different thread, pretending the vaccine science is settled is rather unscientific isnt it?
NOTE: I am not going to reject my vaccine when my time is up to get it. I dont like it, and I am free to not like it, and I am thankful that Italy and France have blocked the vaccines from arriving which is causing the delays as mentioned by DJC, BUT I am free to be skeptical about it and am going to be until its proven otherwise.
Food for thought, my brother had his first AstraZ vax on friday. Spent the whole weekend in bed sick. Not that there is anything to do in London currently but he has never felt so sick in his life. THAT is cause for some concern, and he thinks he has had covid (not that they tested him, but they told him to isolate because his coughing was so bad he went to hospital with a ruptured blood vessel in his throat, and they still didnt test him likely because they needed to flip him through the system quickly and he wasnt in dire need of hospitilisation.
THAT is the sort of thing we are NOT being told publically. Is he counted as COVID positive do you think?
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How old is your brother Thry?
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