CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

Not according to learned epidemiologists. 

The latest explanations are that the virus is capable of airborne transmission, hence the new measure of blocks of vacant rooms in the quarantine hotels.  There's also no reason why the guard may not have been infectious prior to his symptoms and isolation.

Yet still spread it to no one else even those he lives with?

Do you guys not understand how ridiculous this sounds even if it is plausible?

[LP]

My post isn't aimed at making out covid is benign. If the guard was so diligent at his processes he wouldn't have gotten infected in the first place, and once he did, its reasonable he would have spread it at least somewhere else.

So by extension, you are confirming your work associates in the health sector who suffered COVID weren't diligent, and you do think your good fortune to date is due to your own diligence and nothing to do with good luck.

But you stated your preferred solution was to lockdown for 2 years and not accept the vaccine. If your trained associates working in the health sector are not diligent enough to make it through 1 year, what hope the rest over 2 or more years?

https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topi...#msg323009

Why dont we simply keep our country COVID free for 2 years, and then get some meaningful data about what a covid vaccine means for the nations that have vaccinated, rather than become a guinea pig like the rest?

This didn't help NZ, and it was community transmitted virus free!

"The UK" or "South African" strain of SARS-CoV-2 is just a mutation that can occur anytime in any location, it doesn't need to come here at all on visitors or returning citizens, because SARS-CoV-2 is already here. It's a misnomer to think you can stop it by closing the borders, in a community where SARS-CoV-2 is becoming endemic in the absence of action like a vaccine it's just a matter of time!

I doubt anybody would think the body bags in London, or anywhere for that matter, is anecdotal evidence! :o

[ElwoodBlues1]

If there is another serious outbreak because of the AO, he is history.

Looking like he might have got lucky with the latest outbreak and no new cases despite all the contact
that was assumed. Dan has gone from lockdown to political mode and is looking to avoid lockdowns
to win some votes. Like others I would have passed on the Tennis if I was Dan given the worldwide exposure Tennis players
and their entourage's have. Australia doesnt need to rely on vaccines if you dont let anyone in especially slack arse spoilt brat tennis players who think they are special and dont need to follow rules.

[LP]

Yet still spread it to no one else even those he lives with?

Do you guys not understand how ridiculous this sounds even if it is plausible?

I've already addressed this in my earlier post, you assert he wasn't diligent but it's completely feasible the worker is diligent and that his good practises have stopped further transmission, and your claim is contradictory to the health officials who report the worker was in fact very diligent, a model employee, but because it doesn't suit your vaccine politics you assert he wasn't diligent because he caught it, that is a contradiction and logical absurdity.

Don't slight the worker to push your cause, boost your cause with evidence, will you ever present some?

Sorry Thry, but from the outside it looks to me like the less evidence there is for a conspiracy, the better you think the conspiracy is!

[LP]

FWIW, to date 47M people have been vaccinated, and in countries where the vaccination has proceeded at full speed like Israel, where they have vaccinated almost 50% of the population, already the infection and death rate is plummeting relative to the rest of the world.

That is some mighty evidence right there, and no over the top social media claims of deadly side-effects or allergic reactions, and no need for FB anarchists or Instagram tans!

[Gointocarlton]

Looking like he might have got lucky with the latest outbreak and no new cases despite all the contact
that was assumed. Dan has gone from lockdown to political mode and is looking to avoid lockdowns
to win some votes. Like others I would have passed on the Tennis if I was Dan given the worldwide exposure Tennis players
and their entourage's have. Australia doesnt need to rely on vaccines if you dont let anyone in especially slack arse spoilt brat tennis players who think they are special and dont need to follow rules.

100%

[ElwoodBlues1]

I've already addressed this in my earlier post, you assert he wasn't diligent but it's completely feasible the worker is diligent and that his good practises have stopped further transmission, and your claim is contradictory to the health officials who report the worker was in fact very diligent, a model employee, but because it doesn't suit your vaccine politics you assert he wasn't diligent because he caught it, that is a contradiction and logical absurdity.

Don't slight the worker to push your cause, boost your cause with evidence, will you ever present some?

Sorry Thry, but from the outside it looks to me like the less evidence there is for a conspiracy, the better you think the conspiracy is!

There are two valid reasons why Thry has a point about waiting and watching....the safety of the vaccine and unknown side effects as well as the effectiveness on a world scale.
Id rather see what happens when two nations who are 70-90% fully vaccinated allow travel and contact between their citizens.
What precautions do they still need to take, is quarantine still neccessary, what testing is still required, what new strains may have been created..in other words what can we learn before we jump in to vaccination and assume its all ok and open the doors.
If we keep the doors shut and look and learn we may save lives and be better placed, this idea we get the majority vaccinated and selling the idea to the public its all fixed is concerning IMO.
eg We have friends who love cruise ships and think once they are vaccinated its back on the boat, let the good times roll again
and they are safe....

[capcom]

... and in front of what crowds?

[Thryleon]

I've already addressed this in my earlier post, you assert he wasn't diligent but it's completely feasible the worker is diligent and that his good practises have stopped further transmission, and your claim is contradictory to the health officials who report the worker was in fact very diligent, a model employee, but because it doesn't suit your vaccine politics you assert he wasn't diligent because he caught it, that is a contradiction and logical absurdity.

Don't slight the worker to push your cause, boost your cause with evidence, will you ever present some?

Sorry Thry, but from the outside it looks to me like the less evidence there is for a conspiracy, the better you think the conspiracy is!

I've already addressed this in my earlier post, you assert he wasn't diligent but it's completely feasible the worker is diligent and that his good practises have stopped further transmission, and your claim is contradictory to the health officials who report the worker was in fact very diligent, a model employee, but because it doesn't suit your vaccine politics you assert he wasn't diligent because he caught it, that is a contradiction and logical absurdity.

Don't slight the worker to push your cause, boost your cause with evidence, will you ever present some?

Sorry Thry, but from the outside it looks to me like the less evidence there is for a conspiracy, the better you think the conspiracy is!

Yes, you are right.  God how could I have been so stupid to ever doubt you lp.

You truly know everything there is to know about this.

You should lead us all through this, you have all the answers.

I dont know if you've realized but the bigger and more answers you write, the less im reading.

[Lods]

Just when you thought it was safe to go to Wollongong...

Thought I'd take a trip 'back home' for a week.
Motels booked, car booked in for a pre-travel service.

Tonight I hear that there's a positive case...and alerts are out for several venues in the Gong.
NSW Health are reacting in a way that suggests that they're not entirely confident with this case and are urging testing and isolation.

I guess its a problem many have encountered over the course of the last 12 months.

This person had been in quarantine and has tested positive on Day 16!! ...after being released on day 14.
Now hopefully their infectious period is well and truly over and there wont be further cases.
Holidays can wait, but I have many friends and family who are now a concern.

It just shows that with this virus...if you think you have a handle on it....you don't really.