CV and mad panic behaviour

[capcom]

.... interesting LP.  The power savings must have been extraordinary.  Puts those extinction morons out of a "job", house sales with an integrated connected office escalate. 

But just as many blessings in that as there are curses.  Transurban profits plummet.  So it goes

[Thryleon]

I notice the corporate psychopaths want everyone back in the office ASAP.

The motivation isn't that people working from home are less productive, the problem is the corporate psychopath is inherently paranoid and the poor bastards are running themselves into the ground trying to keep watch over the dispersed staff. They want them back in the pig pen so they can stroll around and laud over them in the old bullying ways! Staff working from home, out of the eyeline, is the paranoid psychopaths worst nightmare!

But there is a problem for the psychopath, it turns out not running the office block, not having a tower of power, is more profitable for the crew in the big house. Once the IT crews solved the security and paranoia issues that good corporate governance required, working from home was a no brainer. Operating costs have plummeted, there has been no real hit on productivity, and the Board Executives are already eyeing bigger bonusses, ........................... the only real loser is the psychopath!

Even worse, it's good for the environment, CO2 emissions have plummeted, there is less traffic, staff having acclimatised are less stressed, and the bulk of the bad eggs have left the building(quit or sacked) because taking work home was their worst nightmare given they spend all day working harder at getting out of it than actually doing anything!

I know many people who have hated working from home, and are not able to do their job properly and are therefore relying on others to enable working from home.

Similarly I know many that have thrived.

I dont think you can state with confidence that working from home has been good for everyone.  It will change as the kids go to school again, but I'd wager that productivity was not maintained from all people.  There are possibly ways to see resources who failed at working from home effectively.  they wouldnt have done the job all that well I am confident.  Some have even relied heavily on onsite resources to get the job done, and have spent more time distracting onsite staff with pointless zoom and webex meetings just to fill in the day.  Lots of talk, no action.

[LP]

Some have even relied heavily on onsite resources to get the job done, and have spent more time distracting onsite staff with pointless zoom and webex meetings just to fill in the day.  Lots of talk, no action.

I agree there is a mix of success and failure, but those I've talked with who have complained about remote working frequently have a common theme of excessive meetings and excessive reporting, that reeks of some psychopath interrupting people frequently to make sure they are working and wants hard proof.

So I'd wager if it exists there is a direct relationship between a drop in productivity from remote working and this sporadic increase in excessive monitoring, a lot of it must be from those psychopaths trying to keep control, but that pattern of behaviour would be exposed by the digital records if anyone cares to look for it! So I suppose benefits or detriments are not global.

The digital footprint of meetings and demands is forensic proof of digital harassment and bullying, it must be a psychopaths nightmare, because the modus operandi is normally to blame others for blunders, and they are littering the cloud with a trail of breadcrumbs that leads back to them!

[Baggers]

Another of those situation where there is more AND rather than either/or.

The Spotted One (LP) is 100% correct re the corporate sociopath's pathological need for control (with a trust vacuum) and hence will hate people working from home. They'll claim concerns about productivity, but really it is all about control & fear. And the corporate sociopath is much more prevalent than many might believe... conservative research shows at least 20%.

In a nation where the ratio of introvert to extrovert is 60% introvert/40% extrovert you'll find that the introverts (generally speaking) will be more productive working from home, at least most of the time. Whereas the extroverts need the social interaction that the 'office' provides. Many extroverts could have gone nuts during hard lock-down and would have needed loads of Zoom meetings, etc., to satisfy their need for interaction.

As some of you know I have a family member who is a senior manager in a major organization and I read to her the Spotted One's comments re sociopaths (psychopaths)... she nodded agreement, almost enthusiastically!

In an ideal world more folks will have the choice to work from home/office and/or a % of sharing their time between both. I would expect that in 'healthy' workplaces (sociopath free zone) there will be negotiated more 'work from home' days for those who feel they are more productive working from home, and it suits the workplace. Mrs Baggers is negotiating 3 days from home, 2 from the office and there is good support for this... and she aint Robinson Crusoe.

[Gointocarlton]

Some may have already read/heard the stats on CV, but supposedly only 2% of the people that get it, die. Most of them are old.
If you are under the age of 50 and get CV, you have a 0.2% chance of death......and i'm tipping most of that 0.2% are either already sick and/or are children/infants.

If you are relatively fit and healthy, you are fine.

"Only" 2%? Mostly Old? Phew, thats ok then. :
Seriously Krudd, sometimes you have no filter what so ever.

[ElwoodBlues1]

EB, I read somewhere that there was much funding and cooperation from the West, including Australia btw, for research in China  into viruses including Covid. Maybe we have ourselves to blame, at least partly.

I read that initially Cookie when Covid appeared, we were doing some lab work in Geelong related to Chinese research. We pay everywhere to keep the red/northern hordes at bay and even donate to terrorist friendly countries like Indonesia so they wont invade us. We talk tough standing next to the USA meanwhile Twiggy Forrest is entertaining the same Chinese we are talking tough too and making a fortune out of our dirt(Fortescue) and collecting squillions in franking credits.
Its just contradictions everywhere and you really cant trust anyone when the money gets big....

[LP]

Mrs Baggers is negotiating 3 days from home, 2 from the office and there is good support for this... and she aint Robinson Crusoe.

[member=61]Baggers[/member]  As the Mandalorian states, I suspect for a good percentage of staff "This is the way!"

Through my R&D work I get to talk with a lot of the top end of town, State & Fed politicians and bureaucrats, legal eagles mostly in IP and Corporate Law, Execs and Tech Investors, all of them without exception do not expect the full workforce to return to the big office blocks within the next two or three years, maybe ever, they have even warned tenants not to expect more than about 40% of staff compared to pre-COVID for at least the next 18 months. (Most of the food, beverage and service facilities are sub-leased in the CBD office blocks, these people get a surprising amount of inside knowledge from the favourite customer.) Even more surprising, even when the office block in not in the CBD it won't be like it was before, they fully intend to pick the eyes out of the best of both worlds!

Obviously there will be industries that cannot work like this, health, manufacturing, etc., etc.. But if you count beans you can count them anywhere, banking is just a button press, invoices and delivery dockets the same, if you consult finances or shift shares you can do it from your hammock, and it's surprising how many people do this type of work. Good luck to them I say, unfortunately I can't join in but I get other benefits like freeways full of empty space!

There will be a price, international travel is probably never going to be cheap or simple ever again, big events like trade expos and conferences are probably going the way of dinosaurs, business junkets are kiboshed for ever, I'll probably never sit face to face with some of best international friends ever again enjoying one of their local beverages! Sinking a pint over Zoom just ain't the same!

[kruddler]

"Only" 2%? Mostly Old? Phew, thats ok then. :
Seriously Krudd, sometimes you have no filter what so ever.

Why have you gone back 10 months to bring back this post??

[Gointocarlton]

Why have you gone back 10 months to bring back this post??

Doh! Coz Im a DH and clicked on the wrong page! Apologies

[Mav]

I’m just waiting for the Victorian opposition to call for thousands of foreign fruit pickers to be allowed into the State to help out farmers. I heard a farmers’ spokesman advocating that. He said other States are doing this so there should be no problem doing it here. Well ... just 1 problem. Other States are relying on private security to manage quarantine. Given that police are now supervising quarantine hotels, there’s a maximum capacity of 200 or so. As the Liberals were in the vanguard of slamming the Victorian Government for giving this sensitive responsibility to private security, it’ll be hard for them to argue private security is the answer. But as politicians are no strangers to hypocrisy, I’m sure they’ll make the argument without embarrassment.