CV and mad panic behaviour

[ElwoodBlues1]

Very interesting EB. Also heard today that about 150 Vic gov staff are being redeployed and trained as hotel quarantine staff. The training includes aspects of the prison officer training course apparently.

Bit like Russia... Just to be clear, The nurses are being recruited as vaccination candidates as well as deliverers but it's just in the preparation stages and not official trials and more about numbers, volunteers etc.

[LP]

Bit like Russia... Just to be clear, The nurses are being recruited as vaccination candidates..

 In the UK they are deliberately recruiting health workers to be infected with COVID, as this can greatly accelerate the testing of an effective vaccine.

[flyboy77]

In the UK they are deliberately recruiting health workers to be infected with COVID, as this can greatly accelerate the testing of an effective vaccine.

Define "effective".

[LP]

Define "effective".

One that delivers improved resistance to, immunisation against or limits transmission of Sars-CoV-2 infections in a significant percentage of recipients(> 40%) without any permanent or deleterious unwanted side-effects. An effective vaccine doesn't have to stop you getting Sars-CoV-2, it may stop you spreading the infection while reducing your own symptoms.

The reason for recruiting people to receive deliberate infections isn't to determine if the vaccine is effective or not, it is to reduce the time-frame to a conclusion of the study. There are risks though, that the study isn't properly double blind because they have to know who gets exposed to a live infection.

btw., It looks like the commonly believed concept of a single shot vaccine is dead, that is one shot and you're safe for life isn't going to happen, because there are significant numbers of re-infections appearing now in US and European hot zones. At this stage it's not clear if the second infection is better, worse or the same, it'll take many many more repeat infections before that is known.

[DJC]

Bit of inside gossip from the medical world...Vic Nurses being recruited for Covid Vaccination's...

I believe that it’s a nasal spray prophylactic that’s being tested EB.  Apparently it will reduce the chances of infection for health workers.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I believe that it’s a nasal spray prophylactic that’s being tested EB.  Apparently it will reduce the chances of infection for health workers.

Not sure on exactly what is being delivered or tested DJ but that nurses are being sounded out for the delivery job as well as being potential candidates.It was in a information/survey format and voluntary but there is something coming Healthcare workers way but it's all in the preparation stages. I think it's all about preventing a big wave next winter like we are seeing overseas.

[Thryleon]

Id be wary of any scuttlebutt being heard here with respect to vaccinations and trials.

I am literally front line, and have heard nothing here, which means its still highly investigative.

[Gointocarlton]

Id be wary of any scuttlebutt being heard here with respect to vaccinations and trials.

I am literally front line, and have heard nothing here, which means its still highly investigative.

The nasal spray one isnt scuttlebut, that was on the news the other night and showed a nurse at a Melb hospital having it administered.

[LP]

Id be wary of any scuttlebutt being heard here with respect to vaccinations and trials.

I am literally front line, and have heard nothing here, which means its still highly investigative.

I suppose it depends on the size of the trial and where it's being conducted, 200 or 300 could be at just one or two sites. If it's second stage, then it could be 10000 people and that you would have to know about.

The nasal spray one isnt scuttlebut, that was on the news the other night and showed a nurse at a Melb hospital having it administered.

In recent days a lot of fakery has also been on the news, in my opinion broadcast news ranks in quality no better than Facebook.

[LP]

It was in a information/survey format and voluntary but there is something coming Healthcare workers way but it's all in the preparation stages. I think it's all about preventing a big wave next winter like we are seeing overseas.

Then it should be tested OS in autumn / winter conditions not here, we are moving into Spring / Summer, everything is going to look effective because if our trend follows OS we are going through a good period for the next 3 or 4 months!

There is some irony in old wives tales, "Put your jumper on little Johnny, you don't want to catch a cold!"