CV and mad panic behaviour

[flyboy77]

Sorry jeza, you may not agree with me and thats fine but as someone who sees politicians as leeches on society I find it ironic that people are talking about him pandering to his crony union mates regarding the hotels.

I dont think you need to train someone to not let people out and not screw them during  pandemic.

The people in quarantine are more culpable than any guard or any policy.

You might agree you might not, but the actions of people and the outcome speaka for itself.

Fwiw there's still no concrete proof the hotels were the root cause of the issue.

The CHO said it this evening.

[Thryleon]

The CHO said it this evening.

I'm not expecting them to talk about Ramadan Eid festival or the black lives matter rally but have a good hard look at the school with over 100 tests (al taqwa) and the demographics of the suburbs with the highest number of cases.

The media are not going to talk candidly about what happened and are ensuring the finger isnt pointed at certain minorities.

You could have had the toughest policies and procedures in place.  Quarantine dodging is on the people dodging  quarantine.  Its also worth mentioning that hotel staff tested positive.  Were they screwing quarantine people too?

[LP]

If you are relatively fit and healthy, you are fine.

If you mean by fine, you'll survive, then OK.

However, if you mean by fine that you'll be health issue free after a dose of SARS-CoV-2, that is a very long stretch of the statistics.

As each week passes they are finding more and more related secondary health issues in people who have survived a major dose, meaning people who have been hospitalised or ICU which is about 3% of cases. That's a lot of people, and that doesn't mean people who just had to self-isolate at home at health effect free. A significant portion of surviving cases are going to be TPI, it's a scary thought for places like the USA, UK and Sweden.

Secondly, it looks like developing herd immunity and a vaccine is becoming more unlikely. All the maturing studies into the SARS-CoV-2 antibodies show the antibodies diminish greatly after about 3 months. That is the same as the common cold and why there is no vaccine for the common cold. The problem with SARS-CoV-2 is that a second infection 3 or 4 months later might be the knock down punch, after the first dose eroded some of the patients health the foundations relating to heart, lung and now even mental health.

[LP]

PS; If you want a sign of how petty and arbitrary this COVID-19 lockdown mentality is, search for Dannii Minogue quarantine, and suck down the Qld hypocrisy for the star who has returned from the one of the world's genuine COVID-19 hotspots!

She is obviously too pretty to have the plague, nobody will label her COVID Dannii!

[cookie2]

PS; If you want a sign of how petty and arbitrary this COVID-19 lockdown mentality is, search for Dannii Minogue quarantine, and suck down the Qld hypocrisy for the star who has returned from the one of the world's genuine COVID-19 hotspots!

She is obviously too pretty to have the plague, nobody will label her COVID Dannii!

Has Barnaby commented yet? ?

[Baggers]

No but he's certainly responsible for ensuring rock solid processes and policies are in place such that the virus didn't escape back into the community (from quarantine).

The CHO essentially reaffirmed today that it's highly likely all current cases stem from the quarantine breach.

Dan hasn't had a more important responsibility during his tenure.

And he royally f^%$d it up.

the blunder will cost the economy further billions, keeps 1000s of kids out of school and cause a whole heap more pain & grief on 10s of 1000s of people.

That's on him. If you wanna be the big kahuna you take the good and you take the bad.

In any private organisation, he'd be gone by now.

It's facile to say he can't be blamed for others' action. Even puerile.

Wow, the very definition of scapegoating right there.

In your 2nd sentence you say, 'The CHO essentially reaffirmed today that it's highly likely all current cases stem from the quarantine breach.' Then you proceed to blame and demonise one person, in this instance, the state Premier. Talk about a contradiction that swiftly unravel's your argument.

Put another way, who put the quarantine in place? The Premier. Who broke the quarantine? The c0ckheads. Who's to blame? The c0ckheads. Fair suck of the sav, FB.

I understand that people have political allegiances -- too often blind allegiances -- and salivate over the opportunity to blame someone other than their mob for any trouble... but sheesh! This is why I refuse to have any political allegiance... lowers IQ points by a big margin almost immediately. Retaining objectivity and rational, logical thinking should be the goal of everyone, especially around election time.

The investigation will ideally reveal any stuff ups from Andrews or anyone else in his govt or in the administration of the security company or any shenanigans between unions and govt. But blaming Andrews for everything at the moments... holy mackerel... you probably also think Andrews was the other shooter from the grassy knoll!

[flyboy77]

Wow, the very definition of scapegoating right there.

In your 2nd sentence you say, 'The CHO essentially reaffirmed today that it's highly likely all current cases stem from the quarantine breach.' Then you proceed to blame and demonise one person, in this instance, the state Premier. Talk about a contradiction that swiftly unravel's your argument.

Put another way, who put the quarantine in place? The Premier. Who broke the quarantine? The c0ckheads. Who's to blame? The c0ckheads. Fair suck of the sav, FB.

I understand that people have political allegiances -- too often blind allegiances -- and salivate over the opportunity to blame someone other than their mob for any trouble... but sheesh! This is why I refuse to have any political allegiance... lowers IQ points by a big margin almost immediately. Retaining objectivity and rational, logical thinking should be the goal of everyone, especially around election time.

The investigation will ideally reveal any stuff ups from Andrews or anyone else in his govt or in the administration of the security company or any shenanigans between unions and govt. But blaming Andrews for everything at the moments... holy mackerel... you probably also think Andrews was the other shooter from the grassy knoll!

That's just silly spin Baggers. Demonising, get real.

The bloke gets paid $441k a year to make the big calls - so he gets the kudos when it goes right and also gets the flak when it goes pear shaped - as it well and truly has done here.

Did you read or hear today (as I understand it):

1. They were aware of potential outbreaks in the Carlton towers many weeks back - and did sfa;
2. they were advised on Day 1 of the quarantine gig that the arrangements in place were questionable;
3. the initial recommendation made to use ADF or others i.e. police was rejected (or ignored).

It appears the ONLY reason there is a lock down now - 6 weeks - is because of the quarantine fiasco.

If I were in his shoes, I would resign. Simple.

[flyboy77]

Wow, the very definition of scapegoating right there.

In your 2nd sentence you say, 'The CHO essentially reaffirmed today that it's highly likely all current cases stem from the quarantine breach.' Then you proceed to blame and demonise one person, in this instance, the state Premier. Talk about a contradiction that swiftly unravel's your argument.

Put another way, who put the quarantine in place? The Premier. Who broke the quarantine? The c0ckheads. Who's to blame? The c0ckheads. Fair suck of the sav, FB.

I understand that people have political allegiances -- too often blind allegiances -- and salivate over the opportunity to blame someone other than their mob for any trouble... but sheesh! This is why I refuse to have any political allegiance... lowers IQ points by a big margin almost immediately. Retaining objectivity and rational, logical thinking should be the goal of everyone, especially around election time.

The investigation will ideally reveal any stuff ups from Andrews or anyone else in his govt or in the administration of the security company or any shenanigans between unions and govt. But blaming Andrews for everything at the moments... holy mackerel... you probably also think Andrews was the other shooter from the grassy knoll!

ps he could pull a Dimma and sack all the relevant ministers (assistant coaches)!!

[flyboy77]

And a little more shade...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victo...55by9.html

[Gointocarlton]

And a little more shade...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victo...55by9.html

This is getting bad if it already wasn't a s h i t show.