CV and mad panic behaviour

[jeza]

I was happy with Andrews at the start but as the pandemic went on it all seemed to stroke his ego somehow and he took his eye off the ball. Started referring to himself a lot in his press confs. And now - due 100% to his incompetence the virus is back out inflicting death and economic devastation.

Allowing returned travellers back into the country in the volumes we did was madness.

Locating them in the most densely populated area in the country - madness.

Paying for their hotel stay - madness.

Paying minimum wage security guards to look after it all - madness.

Put them in a tent in a paddock on the Puckapunyal army base and make them pay for the priveledge - ringed by fences and soldiers... then see how many returned travellers desperately needed to travel during the worst global pandemic in history.

This is not me using 20-20 hindsight either. I saw this coming weeks ago and if an ignoramus like me can see it coming you can bet Dan had many advisors giving him the heads up about where we were headed. Which is why the blame is all his. Career killing mistake... and rightly so.

[jeza]

If it were up to me Dan (who I voted for) would be facing criminal charges.

[Gointocarlton]

I was happy with Andrews at the start but as the pandemic went on it all seemed to stroke his ego somehow and he took his eye off the ball. Started referring to himself a lot in his press confs. And now - due 100% to his incompetence the virus is back out inflicting death and economic devastation.

Allowing returned travellers back into the country in the volumes we did was madness.

Locating them in the most densely populated area in the country - madness.

Paying for their hotel stay - madness.

Paying minimum wage security guards to look after it all - madness.

Put them in a tent in a paddock on the Puckapunyal army base and make them pay for the priveledge - ringed by fences and soldiers... then see how many returned travellers desperately needed to travel during the worst global pandemic in history.

This is not me using 20-20 hindsight either. I saw this coming weeks ago and if an ignoramus like me can see it coming you can bet Dan had many advisors giving him the heads up about where we were headed. Which is why the blame is all his. Career killing mistake... and rightly so.

As I keep saying, militant unions run the state, a sweetheart deal was struck with them to give the job of quarantining travellers to private security firms while all the other states used Fed Pol and Army.  Lunacy.

[jeza]

As I keep saying, militant unions run the state, a sweetheart deal was struck with them to give the job of quarantining travellers to private security firms while all the other states used Fed Pol and Army.  Lunacy.

Agreed. Lunacy.

[Baggers]

As I keep saying, militant unions run the state, a sweetheart deal was struck with them to give the job of quarantining travellers to private security firms while all the other states used Fed Pol and Army.  Lunacy.

I'm not so sure militant unions run the state but if they've had undue influence on Andrews, especially re guarding towers etc., then that'd be a career killer and will be revealed in the investigation, an investigation that has insisted on access to all persons including the the Premier - no-one exempt from the investigation.

I've thought all state Premiers have done a good job but IF proved that a 'jobs for mates' scenario is discovered in VIC then we'll all demand the sound of rolling heads.

It's quite possible that this is a 2nd wave which hasn't hit other states as yet, time will tell.

[Gointocarlton]

I'm not so sure militant unions run the state but if they've had undue influence on Andrews, especially re guarding towers etc., then that'd be a career killer and will be revealed in the investigation, an investigation that has insisted on access to all persons including the the Premier - no-one exempt from the investigation.

I've thought all state Premiers have done a good job but IF proved that a 'jobs for mates' scenario is discovered in VIC then we'll all demand the sound of rolling heads.

It's quite possible that this is a 2nd wave which hasn't hit other states as yet, time will tell.

Its a Mickey Mouse investigation, see extract from HS article

The Herald Sun understands that hearings will be held in public, and that ministers, departmental staff and ­security guards involved will be called to testify.

But unlike a royal commission, witnesses can refuse to answer questions for fear of self-incrimination.

The inquiry also will not have the power to issue search warrants or seize documents, like that of a royal commission.

Questions have also been raised about the inquiry, to be headed by former judge Jennifer Coate, being hindered by its terms of reference.

Under those, the decisions and communications between government agencies, hotel operators and private contractors are set to be probed.

However specific decisions of a policy nature — as ­opposed to its implementation by an agency — may be ­beyond the scope.

Leader of the Opposition in the upper house, David Davis, described the inquiry as a “whitewash designed to shield the Premier and his key ministers from scrutiny”.

“The inquiry is clearly designed to direct the questions to agencies and shield ministers; it’s a cover-up,” Mr Davis said.

[Baggers]

Its a Mickey Mouse investigation, see extract from HS article

The Herald Sun understands that hearings will be held in public, and that ministers, departmental staff and ­security guards involved will be called to testify.

But unlike a royal commission, witnesses can refuse to answer questions for fear of self-incrimination.

The inquiry also will not have the power to issue search warrants or seize documents, like that of a royal commission.

Questions have also been raised about the inquiry, to be headed by former judge Jennifer Coate, being hindered by its terms of reference.

Under those, the decisions and communications between government agencies, hotel operators and private contractors are set to be probed.

However specific decisions of a policy nature — as ­opposed to its implementation by an agency — may be ­beyond the scope.

Leader of the Opposition in the upper house, David Davis, described the inquiry as a “whitewash designed to shield the Premier and his key ministers from scrutiny”.

“The inquiry is clearly designed to direct the questions to agencies and shield ministers; it’s a cover-up,” Mr Davis said.

Hopefully the frames of reference will change. I heard the former judge being interviewed on the radiola on Friday insisting that the powers of the investigation be broadened. Hopefully she is successful.

[cookie2]

Where's our minister for health, Jenny Mikakos, in all of this? I haven't been paying super close attention but I  haven't seen hide nor hair of her?

[kruddler]

Been saying it for months.  Our society is full of entitled, selfish F-wits and we're all going to pay for the meatheads.  Classic example: Shane the dumb fcuk tradie biatching on 774 Thursday AM about having to wait at the Avalon  checkpoint while commuting from Melbourne to Queenscliff for work.  Well Shane it's people like you that have rampantly spread this thing because you believed it to be "fake",  that you were "essential".  What part of STAY HOME DiDnt you get?  I won't even start on tradies blowing in and taking the few local jobs on the Belkarine.  Seriously,  when is the straight out sense of entitlement of the unwashed masses going to stop? Why is Portarlington currently full of out-of-towners???  Our society continues to stagger me with the depths plumbed in stupidity and selfishness.

I'll start this by saying i don't know who you are referring to from the radio. So context may be a little off here.

But....
You can't pot a bloke for trying to work.
As a tradie, he is able to social distance himself at work.
As a tradie, he is entitled to go where the work is.
As a tradie, he is told he is allowed to work.
As a tradie, he is only going to go where people hire him to work.

So if you have issues with a tradie going to work down there, perhaps think about the blokes that hired him in the first place, not pot a bloke trying to earn a buck and provide for his family.

[capcom]

Where's our minister for health, Jenny Mikakos, in all of this? I haven't been paying super close attention but I  haven't seen hide nor hair of her?

She appears in andrews almost daily bleatings / briefings.  Says nothing of course when she takes her turn at providing comments of any quality.  The Marcel Marceau of the ALP