CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

Fwiw that table shows that white on white homicide is 2000+

White on black homicide 243.

Black on white. 533.

Black on black 2547.

For a minority those numbers prove your assertion a biased perspective and you know it.

[PaulP]

https://www.prb.org/americasracialandethnicminorities/

So let me put it to you this way.  That 2016 table is being explained away when black people are a minority?

Dude, seriously. I know blacks are a minority, and please focus on the original discussion. The majority of hate crimes are perpetrated by whites. This is fact.

[Thryleon]

I think you blokes are missing the point. The incidents that lead to rioting and protests were triggers. Individual incidents are not really the issue here. Nobody has ever suggested that people of colour are holier than thou, or that they're not capable of hate crimes. But the numbers don't lie - people of colour are victims a lot more than they are victimisers.

You don't measure justice by the level of outrage. The politics of resentment is a dead end.

You said i was missing the point.

Hate crimes are a biased statistic.  They explain away black on white crime if there isnt a political motivation and they'd do the same vice versa.

[PaulP]

You said i was missing the point.

Hate crimes are a biased statistic.  They explain away black on white crime if there isnt a political motivation and they'd do the same vice versa.

No, hate crimes are a legitimate and officially recognised form of crime. You can't just wash away the facts that don't suit your argument.

[LP]

I feel this debate covers two areas that are very loosely defined, both have boundaries that are highly malleable subject to a political or philosophical position!

I remember being part of a university debate about aliens, of course whoever gets to speak first gets to define the debate, and we defined alien in a non-classical way. This tactic is used widely in the media, social or professional, making use of ambiguity to influence opinion without clearly defining the frame of reference. It results in anarchy, and in my opinion outside of a competitive debating framework it is an invalid tactic to frame any political or social discussion.

The biggest problem in social media is that perspectives are not easily or clearly communicated, and there is no will to fix it, because it's built on a the premise that the poster's has an opinion that is valid and correct in their own frame of reference.

[kruddler]

No, hate crimes are a legitimate and officially recognised form of crime. You can't just wash away the facts that don't suit your argument.

I've joined this debate late, but has anyone pointed out that the sheer fact that 'hate crimes' exist, as in a specific definition in itself, is part of the racism problem?

If people are all supposed to be equal (in reality we appear a long way off) the courts highlighting our 'differences' perpetuates the exact thing its trying to stop.

[LP]

I've joined this debate late, but has anyone pointed out that the sheer fact that 'hate crimes' exist, as in a specific definition in itself, is part of the racism problem?

If people are all supposed to be equal (in reality we appear a long way off) the courts highlighting our 'differences' perpetuates the exact thing its trying to stop.

Are the underlying motives really about equality?

So many profit from this, I'm not asserting all or most, but many are not motivated by anything other than money, power or fame(Some may say infamy). They may be the minority, but that minority seems very very damaging, as damaging to the wider community as the anti-vaxers, environmental extremists and social anarchists.

If equality is the genuine outcome and desire, perhaps the first thing that needs to happen is remove financial benefits of being a victim.

Not just victims, but lawyers, bloggers, media and politicians.

[kruddler]

Are the underlying motives really about equality?

No, but they should be.

....and thats the whole point. USA are set up the way they want to be set up, with 'legal slavery'.

[DJC]

Why would anyone take seriously anything said by the fascist, woman beating askwipe Yemini?

https://thebrag.com/avi-yemini-charged-a...g-ex-wife/

[Baggers]

Why would anyone take seriously anything said by the fascist, woman beating askwipe Yemini?

https://thebrag.com/avi-yemini-charged-a...g-ex-wife/

Let me add a little, David... the words cowardly sack of human refuse come to mind also. The tragedy is that the trauma his ex has endured will possibly stay with her for a long time, negatively impacting her quality of life. Yet slime boy (most likely also a narcissist) will scoot about guilt free and justifying his despicable behaviour.

Perhaps, like you, males like this pr1ck make my blood boil.