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CV and mad panic behaviour
(03-29-2020, 03:40 AM)LP link Wrote:This isn't going to be resolved in days.

Stating today is low or tomorrow will be high are just maybe scenarios. To comment with any certainty you can only look retrospectively at a period of weeks or months.

If you are lucky enough to develop a model that works against the historical data you might be able to predict a few days out like the weather, but that reliable model isn't coming before this is all over because it needs the historical data before it can be formulated.

Stating that today was lower, is a bit like climate change deniers stating that today was a record low after a year that averaged high!
From the PMs and Health Ministers speech today (Courtesy of HS)

"In what Health Minister Greg Hunt has called “an early positive sign”, the rate of increase in coronavirus cases has gone from around 25 per cent to 30 per cent per day a week ago to around 13 per cent to 15 per cent today"

I'd say cleverer and more qualified people than me or you are looking at all this info and making calls based on it. All it says is that the measures implemented to date have made some progress.

Italy had less cases than us up to Feb 20. Their cases grew rapidly from Feb 21 surpassing us and everyone else.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(03-29-2020, 04:37 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:From the PMs and Health Ministers speech today (Courtesy of HS)

"In what Health Minister Greg Hunt has called “an early positive sign”, the rate of increase in coronavirus cases has gone from around 25 per cent to 30 per cent per day a week ago to around 13 per cent to 15 per cent today"

I'd say cleverer and more qualified people than me or you are looking at all this info and making calls based on it. All it says is that the measures implemented to date have made some progress.

Italy had less cases than us up to Feb 20. Their cases grew rapidly from Feb 21 surpassing us and everyone else.

So, you’re telling us that politicians don’t “interpret” statistics to put themselves in a better light...?
Ummm, ok...
Let’s go BIG !
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(03-29-2020, 07:46 AM)northernblue link Wrote:So, you’re telling us that politicians don’t “interpret” statistics to put themselves in a better light...?
Ummm, ok...
Just saying I didnt make it up or read it on Weatbix packet
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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I think "new cases" is a fluff statistic, you can make this go up or down depending on how many tests you decide to do, and who you decide to test. The stats that are going to matter in this are "new ICU admissions", "total number in ICU", "% of ICU capacity currently being used" and "deaths". These stats would give you a much better idea of where we are and where we are going
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We have to take extreme measures, and society has to stop the morons, so these people and people like them can endure!

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"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/padd...-democracy

Buggered if I know what to make of it all.
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(03-30-2020, 04:57 AM)PaulP date Wrote:https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/padd...-democracy

Buggered if I know what to make of it all.
It's a no win scenario for the conservative government, all the viable solutions are social, at least whatever happens should have no excuses for being too slow! So you get turds like Andrew Bolt labeling Scomo a Marxist, a lot of Marxist rubbish being floated around!

I wouldn't call my self a Scomo booster, in fact far from it, but he's doing as good of a job as can be expected, there is no road-map for this situation and it's like balancing a ball bearing on a pin! However, I think Frydenberg might be a bit of a dead weight, he's looking more chook as each day passes, but who can blame him!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BA9eTXwGIk

Probably an Irish Epidemiologist making the point clear, as only the Irish can do...  Wink  Wink  Big Grin 
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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(03-30-2020, 06:01 AM)LP link Wrote:It's a no win scenario for the conservative government, all the viable solutions are social, at least whatever happens should have no excuses for being too slow! So you get turds like Andrew Bolt labelling Scomo a Marxist, a lot of Marxist rubbish being floated around!
.......................

I wonder if the pollies will be stood down without pay. Lol.

As for Marxists - they're everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b51g7oXqjrY
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(03-30-2020, 06:01 AM)LP link Wrote:It's a no win scenario for the conservative government, all the viable solutions are social, at least whatever happens should have no excuses for being too slow! So you get turds like Andrew Bolt labeling Scomo a Marxist, a lot of Marxist rubbish being floated around!

Ah, the irony... capitalism using welfare state/socialism strategies to rescue itself! Perhaps an important lesson for capitalism, it needs healthy humans, en masse, to operate effectively. Greater investment in health, or perhaps fast tracking robots?
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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