CV and mad panic behaviour

[kruddler]

Watch the video in MBB's link

For any specific points? It is 90 minutes long

[flyboy77]

My kids' school closed today after a positive test yesterday. A teacher I gather.

UK will shut all school as of tomorrow - we should do the same.

I blame Dan for allowing all the GP crew and supporters in without any quarantine!

[flyboy77]

There have never been official reports saying kids don't get it, so it's a good idea not to slag off the officials with media innuendo, you know how to discuss this appropriately and debug that rubbish. It's like the media repeating the rubbish about NSAIDs and COVID-19, disgraceful media behaviour based on an outright fear-mongering lie that was a distortion of a simple warning that "for all people NSAIDSs carry more risk than paracetamol" having COVID-19 makes little difference.

Even worse is the media loosely associating the number of cases with the number of deaths, as each week passes the death rate reduces approaching that of Influenza.

If you want to be critical, think about this. Some experts are shouting from the rooftops that 14 million people in Australia will get COVID-19, but Wuhan where this all started has more people than all of Australia and is a fraction of the size, Wuhan's metro population of 19 million is the equivalent of packing every Australian into just 1/4 of Tasmania. Yet based on the current trajectories Wuhan won't get anywhere near 14 million cases.

Of course we know that kids get COVID-19 too, but they might show little or no symptoms as do many adults who get nothing more than a mild cold or sore throat. Primarily it seems if you have been lucky enough to get the right type of Flu, Cold or Immunisation previously, you could already have partial immunity to COVID-19. Subjectively, the elderly and some First Nation type societies are at greater risk, but the data is immature as the investigation is still under way.

Already there is a strong association appearing to smokers and COVID-19 susceptibility, it may be no accident that elderly Chinese and Italians who live in high density housing and are frequently life long chain smokers might be coping the brunt of this virus. People who already have reduced lung capacity and lose more of what they have left when they get COVID-19. Another one for the tobacco industry to take credit for!

Give up the smokes, everyday you clock up smoke free might make the difference!

Northern Italy got screwed because it is Italy's manufacturing base - and guess where the majority of their workers are sourced from these days?

[Gointocarlton]

My kids' school closed today after a positive test yesterday. A teacher I gather.

UK will shut all school as of tomorrow - we should do the same.

I blame Dan for allowing all the GP crew and supporters in without any quarantine!

That was a huge f-up

[flyboy77]

That was a huge f-up

I live in Middle Park - there were countless numbers of GP fans roaming the streets and pubs over the last week.

Not blaming then but they simply should not have been allowed into the country.

Good to see that big business greases the pockets of Labor just as much as their counterparts!

[LP]

UK will shut all school as of tomorrow - we should do the same.

Not 100% correct, they are limiting UK school numbers by effectively turning them into daycare centers for the children of Essential Services workers.

Doctors, Nurses, Police, Ambulance, Fire Brigade, Food, etc., etc.. if you're a lawyer or a politician you need to find somewhere else to send your kid.

[Gointocarlton]

I live in Middle Park - there were countless numbers of GP fans roaming the streets and pubs over the last week.

Not blaming then but they simply should not have been allowed into the country.

Good to see that big business greases the pockets of Labor just as much as their counterparts!

Dunno whether it was big business greasing, misinformation, sheer stupidity or all of the above. Given the fact that ALL our cases are "imported", why the fark would you let anyone in from the high risk areas like Europe? If its one thing I'll agree the gov have cocked up and that's not closing the borders (airports and ports) quicker.

[LP]

Northern Italy got screwed because it is Italy's manufacturing base - and guess where the majority of their workers are sourced from these days?

Who is susceptible and what might be the cause are two very different things.

There were probably hundreds or thousands of business people, locals, travelling back and forth between Wuhan Province and local regions over the last few months. Including many business people travelling out of Wuhan and back. The workers who come and stay for weeks or months on end are not the problem, the highly mobile managers and executives who travel back and forth multiple times in that period are far more likely to be carriers.

[madbluboy]

For any specific points? It is 90 minutes long

Here's a shorter version but if you get a spare 90 minutes it's worth a listen to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts

[flyboy77]

Who is susceptible and what might be the cause are two very different things.

There were probably hundreds or thousands of business people, locals, travelling back and forth between Wuhan Province and local regions over the last few months. Including many business people travelling out of Wuhan and back. The workers who come and stay for weeks or months on end are not the problem, the highly mobile managers and executives who travel back and forth multiple times in that period are far more likely to be carriers.

No shit Sherlock!  :