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(06-28-2021, 10:37 AM)LP link Wrote:Or you are in denial about the end approaching for Daniel, the drums are beating once the specialists starting talking about your issues and they are all over him at the moment. It's a brutal business.
As i said, they said the same about him in the early stages as renault.
Once he found his feet, results came.

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The end is nigh for Danny R.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(06-29-2021, 10:37 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The end is nigh for Danny R.
Yes, because he is the wrong side of 30.

....but not because of his results.

Its a 1000000 - 1 chance, but if McLaren sacked Ricciardo, he'd have no trouble finding a drive in 2022.
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(06-29-2021, 10:39 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Yes, because he is the wrong side of 30.

....but not because of his results.

Its a 1000000 - 1 chance, but if McLaren sacked Ricciardo, he'd have no trouble finding a drive in 2022.
With one of the back markers maybe.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(06-29-2021, 11:05 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:With one of the back markers maybe.
...but surely if he is past it, the back markers wouldn't want him either.....right?

Or perhaps he simply isn't past it.
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(06-29-2021, 12:24 PM)kruddler link Wrote:...but surely if he is past it, the back markers wouldn't want him either.....right?

Or perhaps he simply isn't past it.
Lets run through the teams
Maclaren-Gonski
Renault - No Chance
Ferrari - no, gone young
Red Bull - no, bridge burnt and they have Max and will go young after Perez
Merc-no, Mr Sat is next there, Lewis will be 50 and still driving the wheels off it
Alpha Tauri - See Red Bull plus gone young
Aston Martin - Stroll owns the team, Seb locked in for abit, could replace him
Alfa- Could replace Kimi
Williams- Could replace Mr Sat or Latifi
HAAS - gone young
As I said, back markers only
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(06-29-2021, 12:24 PM)kruddler date Wrote:...but surely if he is past it, the back markers wouldn't want him either.....right?

Or perhaps he simply isn't past it.
I think the lower teams would welcome up guys like Vettel, Alonso and Ricciardo as long as they fit their price to the budget and are willing. They might not be on the racing edge anymore, but they have the young guys done and dusted in terms of a lowly team gaining from top level experience and knowledge. Guys like Verstappen, Russell and Norris feed off the older guys to accelerate their progress, teams like McLaren need someone like Ricciardo in the squad because he's the one they would go to when they want to fix the problems.

It might we be a trick the weaker teams have missed, in that perhaps a lowly team should be offering a pair of the senior drivers some sort of duopoly partnership, but of course the drivers have to be willing. Get them off the bottom and up to technology and reliability speed then try a bleeding edge newbie.

Do not take my remarks as disrespect or dislike of Ricciardo, I barrack for him every race, but just like sMurph and Betts the end is nigh! Sure they still offer some highlights here and there, but they won't be 24x7 performers anymore. That's not to say they aren't invaluable off the field and to the team for lifting the kids to the required level.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(06-29-2021, 10:00 PM)LP link Wrote:I think the lower teams would welcome up guys like Vettel, Alonso and Ricciardo as long as they fit their price to the budget and are willing. They might not be on the racing edge anymore, but they have the young guys done and dusted in terms of a lowly team gaining from top level experience and knowledge. Guys like Verstappen, Russell and Norris feed off the older guys to accelerate their progress, teams like McLaren need someone like Ricciardo in the squad because he's the one they would go to when they want to fix the problems.

It might we be a trick the weaker teams have missed, in that perhaps a lowly team should be offering a pair of the senior drivers some sort of duopoly partnership, but of course the drivers have to be willing. Get them off the bottom and up to technology and reliability speed then try a bleeding edge newbie.

Do not take my remarks as disrespect or dislike of Ricciardo, I barrack for him every race, but just like sMurph and Betts the end is nigh! Sure they still offer some highlights here and there, but they won't be 24x7 performers anymore. That's not to say they aren't invaluable off the field and to the team for lifting the kids to the required level.
Never rated him, never liked him. Comes across as full of himself. As for drinking out of sweaty race boot, as gross and as bogus as it gets.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(06-29-2021, 10:35 PM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Never rated him, never liked him. Comes across as full of himself. As for drinking out of sweaty race boot, as gross and as bogus as it gets.
I suppose a lot of Carlton fans lost support for him after the Carlton jumper incident, rolling up to our club and being presented with a jumper by SpecialK, then a few weeks later getting on the social media and telling everyone you are a Wet Toast supporter did not go down well!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(06-30-2021, 12:30 AM)LP link Wrote:I suppose a lot of Carlton fans lost support for him after the Carlton jumper incident, rolling up to our club and being presented with a jumper by SpecialK, then a few weeks later getting on the social media and telling everyone you are a Wet Toast supporter did not go down well!
Dont even recall that, wouldnt worry me anyway. Just basing it on his achievements and the way he carries himself.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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