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(12-03-2020, 01:53 PM)dodge link Wrote:It would just prove that Bottas is lucky he's in the car he is - Hamilton likes Bottas because he is no threat at all, yet the car is the same
Grosjean is very lucky. While there is no doubt the halo saved him, having the medics so close on hand had to have helped. Scary stuff.
It was good that the coverage didn't show anything further until they knew he was out of danger.
Was Rosberg lucky he was in the same car as Hamilton? He is the only bloke who has been able to beat him for the title. Bottas is not up to the same standard as Hamilton, nobody is, but he's no slouch.
In order to get into F1 you have to be a good driver....even if you pay for your own drive, you still have to be a good driver. The majority of the blokes who are there have won championships upon championships since they were like 6yo's in carts. The notion of being lucky or a crap driver is ignoring what it takes to get there.
re grosjean...
That is the reason the medical car starts at the back of the grid for each race, its the fastest way to get them to the scene of an accident quickly....and there are more accidents on lap 1 than any other lap.
How Grosjean was able to stay conscious despite being put through 50G+ of stopping force is a miracle in itself. That, along with the halo, is the reason he is alive.
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The only measure in F1 worth noting is being measured against a team-mate, sometimes team politics will cloud the issue.
Every other measure is about the cars not the drivers.
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Hamilton certainly didn't like Rosberg beating him - he was a threat. It doesn't appear to work well when both drivers are close in ability with the same car - particularly if the car is good enough to challenge for the title. That Bottas is no threat means that Hamilton and Mercedes can just go about their business without internal politics taking over too much, but still know that they both cars will finish in the top four just about every race.
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12-05-2020, 09:36 AM
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(12-03-2020, 10:35 AM)LP link Wrote:Russell is a good driver, but I doubt he'll do much in one week in a car he is new to.
Practice 1 - Fastest - Russell
Practice 2 - Fastest - Russell
....not bad for just a 'good' or 'ordinary' driver
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Well I guess Russell qualifying 2nd puts an end to the Hamilton vs Schumacher/Senna debate.
2017-16th
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2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
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2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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12-06-2020, 01:54 AM
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Russell is a good driver, it'll be interesting to see how he goes tomorrow.
Leclerc was probably qualifying king today, but I doubt he has the car to finish on the podium.
I think Bottas should be favourite, he got pole while looking like he was driving at half-rat pace, he was virtually 100% between the lines!
I wouldn't write off Verstappen on the short track, tyre life on this track could be king.
But the key to short track racing is making no mistakes, when so many drivers are separated by hundredths losing a tenth somewhere has much more impact than usual. Although it's not a good passing venue. It's a pity we do not see more short tracks.
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Mr Saturday finally gets beaten, and its by the blink of an eye by a bloke who has driven the same car he just stepped into for years.
Now Bottas is not a great starter and he is not a great overtaker. Russell is a bit of an unknown in that regard because his car has never been good enough.
To me i think Verstappen is the one to watch. His car is good enough, he has the aggressive driving style to make the passes on the short track. If he can keep his calm, he'll be on the podium, potentially the top step.
A wildcard for you is Danny Ric. He can look after his tyres as good as anyone and that should allow him to stay out longer and gain places while people are in the pits.....and we know he can overtake with the best of them. He'll get plenty of chances here. Hopefully his car is up for the challenge.
Don't discount the racing points too. If they can stay on track, they'll both be top 6 IMO.
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(12-06-2020, 08:00 AM)kruddler date Wrote:A wildcard for you is Danny Ric. Late braking might be the only way to pass!
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(12-06-2020, 08:00 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Mr Saturday finally gets beaten, and its by the blink of an eye by a bloke who has driven the same car he just stepped into for years.
Now Bottas is not a great starter and he is not a great overtaker. Russell is a bit of an unknown in that regard because his car has never been good enough.
To me i think Verstappen is the one to watch. His car is good enough, he has the aggressive driving style to make the passes on the short track. If he can keep his calm, he'll be on the podium, potentially the top step.
A wildcard for you is Danny Ric. He can look after his tyres as good as anyone and that should allow him to stay out longer and gain places while people are in the pits.....and we know he can overtake with the best of them. He'll get plenty of chances here. Hopefully his car is up for the challenge.
Don't discount the racing points too. If they can stay on track, they'll both be top 6 IMO.
I underestimated them. Both top 3!
In fairness, if Mercedes didn't shoot themselves in the foot......and verstappen was a victim of circumstance. They would've been 4th and 6th.
Anyone doubting Russell ability now is kidding themselves.
If i was Mercedes i'd be signing him up now to take over from Bottas ASAP. He has 1 year to go, so get Russell in the car with Hamilton in 2022.
Poor Checo Perez still doesn't have a drive for 2021, i'd be giving him Albons spot in the 2nd red bull.
One of the great races!
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