Deer in the Headlights

[flyboy77]

You think this is new news?

Again, you reveal your facile nature by playing the man.

Piss weak LP. I would have thought a CFC man would have a better spine.

[flyboy77]

Except there is, the assertion of some conspiracy was more fake news based around claims of the BoM changing data.

Data that is actually re-calibrated and standardised as the global organisations set new international standards for data homogenisation so that the world speaks the same units of measure relative to global standards. Like the NOAA graph a few posts ago! ;D

That BoM / ACORN conspiracy was debunked more than half a decade ago!

Too easy,

You'got all the answers - without any detail. As usual.

This as usual is pointless.

[LP]

Too easy,

You'got all the answers - without any detail. As usual.

This as usual is pointless.

So the truth is uncomfortable, that seems your default response!

I'll offer this link for those interested, it's a nice record and explanation of the events.
https://theconversation.com/no-the-burea...data-31009

[LP]

New Zealand? https://truebluenz.com/new-zealand-clima...P243Ud4-qo

So the link opens with;

The following is reproduced from a 2013 self published article by Dr David Kear. Dr Kear has impeccable credentials as a climate scientist, and to his advantage, was educated when universities schooled students in how to think, and didn’t tell them what to think. He died in 2019 aged 95.

Except Kear allegedly wasn't a climate scientist but a geologist!

He was another like Freeman Dyson (Physicist) who took issue with Human Induced Climate change in his later years, and his self-published articles have been somewhat corrupted to support radical climate denialists. Kear had a right to an opinion as any do, but like Dyson not all opinions are equal and a geologist's opinion is not equal to a genuine climate researcher's opinion. btw., Kear's alleged primary problem with the science was in the language used to describe minimums and maximum measurements, he didn't have much of an issue with most of the actual numbers or measurements presented, and he mostly debates whether warming was human induced or natural occuring, not if it was real!

Is anything you've found to support your opinion going to be accurate?

[flyboy77]

At the facile level, multiple issues:

1. ACORN 1 came into being when? 2008 odd? Touted as the gold standard, impeccable, best data EVA.

And "3. What is homogenisation?
Homogenisation refers to the method of adjusting
temperature records to remove artificial biases,
such as the impact of a weather station moving
from one location to another.

Cry me a river. I'm sniffing Windy Hill off site tweaks?

2. But wait - more needed!

A new adjusted dataset, ACORN 2, was then was 'necessary" a few years later - even more 'adjustments'. The justification is little more than embarrassing - http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/aco...RR-032.pdf

https://jennifermarohasy.com/2019/12/new...ification/

This in a country with an unquestioned record of keeping impeccable statistics dating back to the 1800s.

Suddenly the data is questionable....

3. The BoM has chosen to ignore all data pre 1910. Hmmm.

This is not conspiracy LP, this is fact.

Yep, if people want to witness the smoke and mirrors, pretty easy...

[LP]

Climategate never happened right? All innocent grade school banter?

You mean Professor Phil Jones, the guy that Climate Change Denialist's had dragged before the UK Parliament only to see fully exonerated. A case they initiated and then labelled a conspiracy when it didn't go their way!

Then the same fringe groups tried to disparage Professor Jones' team in an an investigation chaired by the former head of Shell UK(Yes chaired by the former head of an oil company.) Which also cleared Professor Jones' staff and stated they acted with rigour, honesty and integrity.

Unlike their accusers it seems! ;D

[flyboy77]

So the link opens with;Except Kear allegedly wasn't a climate scientist but a geologist!

He was another like Freeman Dyson (Physicist) who took issue with Human Induced Climate change in his later years, and his self-published articles have been somewhat corrupted to support radical climate denialists. Kear had a right to an opinion as any do, but like Dyson not all opinions are equal and a geologist's opinion is not equal to a genuine climate researcher's opinion. btw., Kear's alleged primary problem with the science was in the language used to describe minimums and maximum measurements, he didn't have much of an issue with most of the actual numbers or measurements presented, and he mostly debates whether warming was human induced or natural occurring, not if it was real!

Is anything you've found to support your opinion going to be accurate?

So tell me LP, who is a climate scientist? What qualifications are required?

Mikey Mann (modeller), Schmidt (god knows), you?

Pray tell?

And again, you play the man. Not the ball.

Didn't you play footy?

Both Dyson and Happer are forces in science, world leading CO2 experts - and you just diss them.

[flyboy77]

You mean Professor Phil Jones, the guy that Climate Change Denialist's had dragged before the UK Parliament only to be fully exonerated.

Then the same fringe groups tried to disparage Professor Jones' team in an an investigation chaired by the former head of Shell UK(Yes chaired by the former head of an oil company.) Which also cleared Professor Jones' staff and stated they acted with rigour, honesty and integrity.

Unlike their accusers it seems! ;D

Either you're ignorant or being disingenuous. There was no exoneration.

https://judithcurry.com/2019/11/12/legac...ars-later/

I guess if you're in, or close to the game, spin is an important skill as any.

[flyboy77]

PJ copping a beating.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8511670.stm

[LP]

There was no exoneration.

The exoneration was official and came from the UK Parliament's Science and Technology Committee, the committee which conducted the enquiry for the UK Parliament.

The links you provide are not official, they are opinions!