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Deer in the Headlights
#41
(01-06-2020, 05:48 AM)Lods link Wrote:There was fair warning that this would be a long and hard season…but did any of us sitting in our lounge rooms (or in the seats of power) expect things to reach the level they have.

To answer this question i will post a video i watched earlier today.
It answers that and goes on to say a whole lot more.
I'm not sure there are many in a position to have more insight into the situation than him.
https://youtu.be/hqkjl1__igY
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#42
Irrespective of the current wave of criticism surrounding Scomo, he is on a hiding to nothing.

If he says something he is in trouble.  If he says nothing he is in trouble.  He cannot win at the moment, and he would do well to shrug off the criticism and then state now is the time for action and we can pontificate about what went wrong later.  At the moment we focus on our front line troops and then we can re-assess our priorities later.

He seems incapable of taking the oxygen out of the argument which is exactly what is required. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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#43
Maybe if the State/Fed Goverments could ignore and not be hampered by these greens/ tree huggers and were able to conduct proper back burning and being able to control the amount of fuel available we wouldnt be relying on ScoMo to provide hose and bucket solutions.
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#44
(01-06-2020, 07:48 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Maybe if the State/Fed Goverments could ignore and not be hampered by these greens/ tree huggers and were able to conduct proper back burning and being able to control the amount of fuel available we wouldnt be relying on ScoMo to provide hose and bucket solutions.

If you don't want bush fires, then don't have bush. Cut it all down. Dead simple.
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#45
Sweeping reforms were needed and a LOT of investment.  We finally saw that.  It should have happened weeks ago.  Now let slip the dogs of war against arsonists.  And Di Natale
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#46
(01-06-2020, 07:48 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Maybe if the State/Fed Goverments could ignore and not be hampered by these greens/ tree huggers and were able to conduct proper back burning and being able to control the amount of fuel available we wouldnt be relying on ScoMo to provide hose and bucket solutions.

Actually a number of firies said it was corporates who hadn't attended to their land and councils that were more responsible for undergrowth that wasn't cleared and acted as fuel. I think you're giving the Greens/Lefties way more influence than they're actually capable of.

One fire fighter said something about corporates getting carbon points for bush blocks... didn't catch it all.

Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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#47
(01-06-2020, 08:46 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I think you're giving the Greens/Lefties way more influence than they're actually capable of.

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Agree. The Greens and the tree huggers have no power. They've never had any power, and they probably never will. I'd suggest any influence they have on back burning quotas in basically nil.
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#48
(01-06-2020, 06:31 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Irrespective of the current wave of criticism surrounding Scomo, he is on a hiding to nothing.

If he says something he is in trouble.  If he says nothing he is in trouble.  He cannot win at the moment, and he would do well to shrug off the criticism and then state now is the time for action and we can pontificate about what went wrong later.  At the moment we focus on our front line troops and then we can re-assess our priorities later.

He seems incapable of taking the oxygen out of the argument which is exactly what is required. 

He brought this on himself, especially when a number of scientific, fire-fighting and state govt bodies predicted this and asked for Federal help in buying large scale fire-fighting equipment... dating back to 2016 and on a few occasions this year... and right along the line who was the person refusing to acknowledge the problem or legitimacy of scientific evidence? Morrison. His political and religious ideologies could be very expensive for this nation, on a few levels.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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#49
Living in a small rural community we can see just how much fuel is on the forrest floor.  Gums lose their leaves all year round, nowhere near the same number of people take firewood out of the forrest due to severe restrictions. so that fallen trees and branches build up and the 'cold burns' have not been sighted in our area for almost 2 years.  Fires cannot start nor continue without some sort of fuel, and the greenies have stupidly provided the fuel.  Locals are ready to burn any greenies should they happen to leave their inner suburban houses.  But they wont, not to even help fight the fires they have caused 
No-one who doesn't live in the regional and rural areas should have a say in what happens there.  >Big Grin  >Big Grin  >Big Grin  >Big Grin  >Big Grin

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#50
(01-06-2020, 08:50 AM)Baggers link Wrote:He brought this on himself, especially when a number of scientific, fire-fighting and state govt bodies predicted this and asked for Federal help in buying large scale fire-fighting equipment... dating back to 2016 and on a few occasions this year... and right along the line who was the person refusing to acknowledge the problem or legitimacy of scientific evidence? Morrison. His political and religious ideologies could be very expensive for this nation, on a few levels.

Yes, but he isn't the first nor is he the last.

When push comes to shove there's a lot of state responsibility being passed onto scomo currently and he is wearing a lot of heat that frankly should sit with state government.

The voters would do well to remind themselves you get what you vote for.

I'm no scomo fan, but the vitriol aimed at him from all angles is a bit rich. 

Either way, now isnt the time to look at what happened.  Now is the time to stop things from escalating.  Reactive yes, but required.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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