Best 22 so far

[Thryleon]

Kreuzer averages just under 17 games per season, and that’s skewed by his one game in 2014. I’d say he is remarkably durable for his role, workload and injury history.  Remember that he missed only one game in 2016 and 2017.

Doc had a history of hip and knee issues before he joined us; one of the reasons he missed a lot of footy early in his career.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/...herty.html

The stats say that he just worked his way up to playing full season.

Kreuzer is a different kettle of fish.  His averages might point to him being fit and durable, but ill go he if he didnt take the field in a compromised physical condition and you can generally tell when he has played under duress.

There was a season not long ago, that he failed to finish the game more often than he finished the game.

[PaulP]

Pressure acts are far more important than fans appreciate, errors come from applied(forced rushed disposals) and inferred pressure(the fear of causing a turnover).

If a team is physically slow;

- It lacks ability to apply pressure, ultimately leading to it's opponent having improved efficiency.

- Additional pressure is present during disposal.

- Recovering from mistakes is harder relative to the opposition.

AFL clubs have to get the balance right or the game is lost at the selection table, a bias is created.

I generally agree. Too many folks use Diesel and Sam Mitchell as examples, but they are once in a generation players. The average tortoise doesn't have the ability / skill / footy brain to get away with lack of pace like those blokes.

[LP]

I generally agree. Too many folks use Diesel and Sam Mitchell as examples, but they are once in a generation players. The average tortoise doesn't have the ability / skill / footy brain to get away with lack of pace like those blokes.

Yes there is good.

Then there are blokes like Leigh Matthews, Gary Ablett Snr, Greg Williams and Sam Mitchell, a different ruler is needed to measure their performance!

Can Cripps get there, it doesn't seem impossible?

Fans expecting to rest of our plodders to make up for their lack of pure speed by playing like Lethal seems a tad unreasonable! I think this aspect of making us competitive is Teague's biggest test.

[PaulP]

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Fans expecting to rest of our plodders to make up for their lack of pure speed by playing like Lethal seems a tad unreasonable! I think this aspect of making us competitive is Teague's biggest test.

Judging by the talk coming from the club (Judd, Teague, Harford), I'm guessing development is out the window, or on the back burner. I guessing it's wins all the way, and I'm guessing Teague will follow the current trends wrt game style as I outlined in my Scrapbook thread.

[PaulP]

Of possible interest :

https://www.afl.com.au/news/133451/runni...nce-beasts

[PaulP]

And this :

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/308319...ns-supreme

I'd like to be able to see some sprint / running times for all our players. Can't find anything anywhere.

[LP]

If nothing else we can probably see the overall list benefit and influence that recruiting some players with strong work ethics.

[flyboy77]

Yes there is good.

Then there are blokes like Leigh Matthews, Gary Ablett Snr, Greg Williams and Sam Mitchell, a different ruler is needed to measure their performance!

Can Cripps get there, it doesn't seem impossible?

Fans expecting to rest of our plodders to make up for their lack of pure speed by playing like Lethal seems a tad unreasonable! I think this aspect of making us competitive is Teague's biggest test.

No one - giants aside perhaps - are slow....at senior AFL level.

Chuck, Harry, the Guv - pretty darn quick. Usain Bolt is 195cm (height not the inhibiting factor)

The gap between the Philps and the 'hacks' at the combine is perhaps 0.3 seconds over 20m.

And that's straight, point to point uninhibited speed.

A smart footy brain. one that can anticipate, covers that off easily.

Knowing and/or working out (learning) when to go - and where to go - far more telling.

[ElwoodBlues1]

No use being quick if you cant get the ball, Tom Mitchell isnt overated at all IMO, he won a brownlow and dumb coaches like Bolton let him run around on his own and get 45 possies a game and 3 brownlow votes. No 1 skill in football is to be able to win the ball, you need to be able to win contested footy on a consistent basis, if you dont have enough of those contested players you can have all the pace you like but you wont win games.

eg Essendon are quick and play pretty outside running football and have played that style for years but are carp.....we saw the Bulldogs come from nowhere to win a flag by forcing contests/gang tackling and making the game ugly.

[LP]

No use being quick if you cant get the ball, Tom Mitchell isnt overated at all IMO, he won a brownlow and dumb coaches like Bolton let him run around on his own and get 45 possies a game and 3 brownlow votes. No 1 skill in football is to be able to win the ball, you need to be able to win contested footy on a consistent basis, if you dont have enough of those contested players you can have all the pace you like but you wont win games.

eg Essendon are quick and play pretty outside running football and have played that style for years but are carp.....we saw the Bulldogs come from nowhere to win a flag by forcing contests/gang tackling and making the game ugly.

The point is the successful teams have an appropriate balance that they can make use of accordingly, imbalance being the aspect I raised about the earlier team.

FWIW, I think Tom is great at winning the football but his disposal is not damaging like a Dusty or Shuey, some rounds Tom struggled to hit the side of a barn leaving more than 1/2 his efforts wasted!

But I'm not big on the Brownlow as a measure, look at Dangerfield, we know know an effective disposal is anything that goes 50m even if it goes straight to an opponent which is the majority of his disposals go to nobody or to the opposition! Similar to Tom Mitchell!

We aren't free of players like this, as good as he is in my opinion Cripps biggest issue is poor disposal efficiency.