AFLW - Contract Dispute

[kruddler]

What I posted has nothing to do with their claims.

It's about the internal doings exposed by Pearce on radio yesterday, they are basically pointing knives at each other already, there is an obvious cliqué or maybe more than one, and they are nowhere near united like the AFL men. The girls have fired up the whisper drive and have their rumor engine running ready to point the blame!

So what your saying is most of the girls are pushovers and doing what the AFL want.
Others are fighting for whats fair in their mind.
As a result there is disagreements amongst themselves.

You have issue with that because they are not united and as a result there is fighting amongst themselves.

Sorry but thats the same as what i said before.

Some girls are just happy to be playing and will take anything they can get.
Other girls are fighting for fair, as is their right.

Again, i don't care about any infighting between factions and what not. I just want whats fair for them. If the majority of them are NOT fighting for the same, as it appears, then they should have a look at themselves.


FWIW, if the men were getting paid a pittance, they wouldn't be united at all.

[LP]

You have issue with that because they are not united and as a result there is fighting amongst themselves.

Sorry but thats the same as what i said before.

Nope you wrote nothing of the sort, you might have thought it, stated it to someone somewhere, but you didn't write it here, and now you're reversing through the debate at high speed claiming you've been there all before!

My comments were solely based on how quickly the girls started throwing rocks at each other when they didn't all agree. I never commented on whether what they had asked for was fair and reasonable, I've no position on it because no document exists to have an opinion on! I never accused them of being pawns in the AFL's game, or made any other statement deriding their situation. That's all in the Kruddler mind, not in the written words!

Over the last 48hrs all they seem to have talked about are the reasons why they didn't agree, in the media they made it an "us versus them" debate instantly, that was their first public thought, to point the finger at each other! The goose at jonts like SEN must have thought they hit the jackpot, because all they had to do was point a microphone at a AFLW player and the rocks started flying.

The bad men at the AFL and those in the rest of society, happily oppressing the girls, never even entered the debate over the last 48hrs! The girls factionalised with all wanting something different, there has hardly been a consistent message from any interviewed in the last 48hrs, despite seemingly having areas of overlap. What I found the most disappointing, was the inferences that one case or the other was coming at someones expense! They seemed unwilling to compromise, they would lose the prisoner's dilema game badly, all going for the loot!

[kruddler]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/womens-...ews-story/

The ring leaders inside the four clubs were Carlton’s Darcy Vescio, Geelong’s Meg McDonald, GWS’ Pepa Randall and St Kilda’s Catherine Phillips.


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In a meeting with the AFL recently, a small section of the ‘NO VOTERS’ voiced their displeasure around several non-financial, non-communication issues.

They told league heavyweights they could not understand why the AFLW competition did not receive the same umpires as the men’s competition. The standard of umpiring is understood to have frustrated coaches and some players last season.

‘NO VOTERS’ also expressed their disappointment with the AFL’s change rooms at certain grounds. Although most facilities are acceptable, a small section of the players want to have access to the same spacious rooms as the men when available.

There is also an undercurrent of agitation towards AFLPA president Patrick Dangerfield and leading women’s player Daisy Pearce. Some players feel let down by them and have spoken out among each other in private about the lack of support they feel they have received from key figures in the game.

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The ‘NO’ voters are adamant the season should see every team play each other once by the end of the next CBA. But the AFL and its two broadcasters — Fox Footy and Channel 7 — have resisted advances to accelerate the competition’s growth.

[Thryleon]

Daisy's a hypocrite.

Bet you she's paid better than average for all her work in footy.

[LP]

Daisy's a hypocrite.

Bet you she's paid better than average for all her work in footy.

Don't know about that, but she clearly has a conflict of interest, as do most of those making critical statements about the rebels!

No surprises Dangerfield is in the gun, this bloke is the most self-serving administrator I've seen in decades, he makes Narcissus look like a teenage self-mutilator!

PS; Is that a good tactic for Carlton fans next time we play against the Handbaggers, bring a bunch of mirrors?

[Thryleon]

Don't know about that, but she clearly has a conflict of interest, as do most of those making critical statements about the rebels!

No surprises Dangerfield is in the gun, this bloke is the most self-serving administrator I've seen in decades, he makes Narcissus look like a teenage self-mutilator!

PS; Is that a good tactic for Carlton fans next time we play against the Handbaggers, bring a bunch of mirrors?

You wont see another female footballer commentating on men's footy (maybe Erin Phillips once).

Daisy just wants to continue building the platform to support her media work.

Don't get me wrong.  I think the girls deserve their fair share.  Where I get sketchy is whether or not they have developed the game to warrant getting a bigger piece of the pie yet.

You can take it to the bank that currently there is no one doing better out of womens footy than Daisy Pearce.

[LP]

Don't get me wrong.  I think the girls deserve their fair share.  Where I get sketchy is whether or not they have developed the game to warrant getting a bigger piece of the pie yet.

I think that is fundamentally the problem, they are doing as much hard work as any but they don't get the reward, and the game is yet to clearly deliver a positive return to base an increase on. At this stage they earn about the same as good suburban footballers, and relatively on average they attract similar crowds to VFL or SANFL.

In reality this pauper situation is the same for any and every pioneer in any field of human endeavor, which makes the current situation feel a little bit like sour grapes, the cart before the horse, and any number of other allegories!

When I posted early, about the perceived way the AFLW players turned on each other, it was partially a commentary about this very issue we write about now. There is some hypocrisy in the comments from Daisy and a couple of others who are currently indirectly on the gravy train, and they don't want it derailed, I can't blame them, but maybe they just have to suck it up and take one for the team!

As an aside, you won't see Danger doing that, taking one for the AFLPA team, not in any public or private endeavour you hear or read about. It seems to be why the girls have fired up about his comments or lack of comments and action. Which makes his own claims of personal sacrifice and pay cuts seem even more dubious! Because the very suggestion clearly flies in the face of all his other publicly exposed narcissistic behaviours. So where and how is he making up this claimed sacrificial shortfall in what he could otherwise earn?

[kruddler]

You won't see Danger doing that??

Didn't he sell Charlie down the river a couple of times in stead of backing him up as AFLPA pres should do?

I think there is plenty of to and fro from the men, but they are a little more 'media savvy' about it....more subtle. They've had more training.


@ Thry.....Abbie Holmes has a gig commentating as well.

[LP]

You won't see Danger doing that??

Didn't he sell Charlie down the river a couple of times in stead of backing him up as AFLPA pres should do?

You need to read the whole paragraph before you post, I've re-organised it so you don't have to jump to an erroneous conclusion!