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(08-01-2019, 12:18 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Really?
Warner
Bancroft
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
3 of those 7 are right handed?
All the talk is about playing Harris as opener as well though... that would make it 5 out of 7...and 5 out of 6 specialist batsmen. I hope they don't pick him quite frankly. You line up is pretty much the same as the one I'd go for.
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Carey must be having nightmares, on form he is a mile ahead of half that lineup, including the captain!
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(08-01-2019, 12:39 AM)malo link Wrote:All the talk is about playing Harris as opener as well though... that would make it 5 out of 7...and 5 out of 6 specialist batsmen. I hope they don't pick him quite frankly. You line up is pretty much the same as the one I'd go for.
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The more predictable you are at the selection table the easier it is to plan your demise, we have a welded on selection approach.
Langer seems to favor experience, repetition and opportunity over form lines. I suspect this mentality delivers sporadic big victories, but it doesn't necessarily get you a series win, and the Ashes is a series not a single point of victory.
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(08-01-2019, 01:07 AM)LP link Wrote:Carey must be having nightmares, on form he is a mile ahead of half that lineup, including the captain!
Red ball and white ball cricket are alot different. Carey averages 29 in first class cricket. Paine averages 35 in Test Cricket.
Who would he replace?
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(08-01-2019, 01:20 AM)laj link Wrote:Red ball and white ball cricket are alot different. Carey averages 29 in first class cricket. Paine averages 35 in Test Cricket.
Who would he replace?
I don't give a stuff about red vs white ball cricket primarily because people lump T20 in with ODI, I think the difference between ODI and Test is greatly overstated and all the genuinely likely candidates can bat 50 overs in either version which is nearly a ton up!
Bancroft, Head and Paine are lucky to still be in the squad as far as I am concerned. I suspect Paine will continue to get the nod regardless of form because of ACB desires to build an image and not much else.
While I wasn't a fan of Khawaja in the ODI, I'm for him in the test arena as long as he bats reliably, I don't care about his run rate. I think we need him and Smith to anchor the innings.
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(08-01-2019, 01:26 AM)LP link Wrote:I don't give a stuff about red vs white ball cricket primarily because people lump T20 in with ODI, I think the difference between ODI and Test is greatly overstated and all the genuinely likely candidates can bat 50 overs in either version which is nearly a ton up!
Bancroft, Head and Paine are lucky to still be in the squad as far as I am concerned. I suspect Paine will continue to get the nod regardless of form because of ACB desires to build an image and not much else.
While I wasn't a fan of Khawaja in the ODI, I'm for him in the test arena as long as he bats reliably, I don't care about his run rate. I think we need him and Smith to anchor the innings.
There's a huge difference difference between Test and ODI. Saying you don't give a stuff about it is showing a real lack of knowledge. Techniques are different, seam on the ball different, field placings are different and not restricted, tactics are different. How do your not know that?
Bancroft has done enough, no one else you can say is better, some maybe equal. Led our runs scorers in South Africa. Maybe you think Carey should opening the batting...lol Head led our runs scorers against India so it's plain stupid to say he's lucky as it stands right now, and Paine averages 35 in Test Cricket. Carey will likely end up better with the bat than Paine eventually, not with the gloves, but he needs to average better than 29 in first class cricket before he gets in ahead of Paine. Paine is a much better actual keeper, you know, the position they are vying for.
Still haven't said who Carey replaces? All you've done is mention a pile of names who you think is lucky.
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(08-01-2019, 03:28 AM)laj link Wrote:Techniques are different, seam on the ball different, field placings are different and not restricted, tactics are different. How do your not know that?
The seam being different is a complete urban myth started by players trying to make a case to use their preferred brand of ball, it was debunked by the manufacturers years ago with all first class makers stating the only difference between first class cricket balls is the colour of the dye used. If you use Duke first class balls they are all the same regardless of colour, same applies to Kookaburra first class balls.
(When WSC originally started there was an issue because only one supplier made white cricket balls so the brand could change with the change of colour.)
It's no kiddy cricket!
Carey batted through the ODI World Cup is mostly a classic manner, he wasn't leveraging field placings and kept the ball on the ground for the bulk of his innings.
The issue of tactics means jack crap when a classical batsmen is in good form! Now if you made the same comments about cross bat hacks like Warner, Finch or Maxwell that is a different argument, but Carey is as correct as any batsmen on the planet!
As a batsmen/keeper Carey can replace any of Bancroft, Head or Paine, even Wade, take your pick!
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Lot of faith being shown in Khawaja, Wade and Bancroft. I hope that faith is justified.
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