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Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn
(04-29-2019, 12:22 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Nice post Boss.

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Well said indeed
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Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
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(04-29-2019, 12:22 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Nice post Boss.

Nice post Boss.

Damn good post LL. You,re right on the mark.
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(04-29-2019, 12:46 PM)bratblue link Wrote:Was it you who always said that you had to build the spine first and the rest will follow? If so you were right and, btw, I appreciate and agree with your positive post.


Yes, I have always strongly advocated (and I think Brother Elwood may have as well) getting the best big guys you can to form the spine and then fill in the rest of the roles as they become available.

Good big players never get any shorter late in tight matches when fatigue starts to kick in, it is the big key position players who win you the big matches. I'm sure there will be someone wanting to argue to the toss on that but history has shown multiple times that the theory is correct even if there has been an alternative bob up for a one-off success. 
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(04-29-2019, 12:46 PM)bratblue link Wrote:Was it you who always said that you had to build the spine first and the rest will follow? If so you were right and, btw, I appreciate and agree with your positive post.

It's a basic of football, you have to get the structures right before you can become consistent.

To focus our emphasis on mids or small defenders is quite mad, they are a dime a dozen and you can trade any one of dozens of mids or HBFs in during any trade period!

But top KPPs, you probably have to draft 10 to find 1 A grade type!

The low value of the HBFs in particular is exposed by the AFLCA votes, look at defender votes, the coaches do not rate them even if they appear to save you the game!
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(04-30-2019, 12:15 AM)LP link Wrote:But top KPPs, you probably have to draft 10 to find 1 A grade type!

A few years ago we were crying out for a Key Forward...it was a constant gripe on here.....now, we're in the best position this club has been for quality KPPs (both forward & back) that I can remember for a long time.

Something has been done right.

Life is pain....... anyone who says differently is selling something.
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(04-30-2019, 03:58 AM)malo link Wrote:A few years ago we were crying out for a Key Forward...it was a constant gripe on here.....now, we're in the best position this club has been for quality KPPs (both forward & back) that I can remember for a long time.

Something has been done right.

Now Ruckmen.

Quality ruckmen are even rarer, most teams have at least one or two A Grade KPPs on the list, but there are less A-Grade rucks than there are teams!

We've one who is at the moment has to deal with an unreliable body.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(04-30-2019, 04:02 AM)LP link Wrote:Now Ruckmen.

Quality ruckmen are even rarer, most teams have at least one or two A Grade KPPs on the list, but there are less A-Grade rucks than there are teams!

We've one who is at the moment has to deal with an unreliable body.

At one point we had 3 quality rucks when we had no other KPPs !

....but lets not drag over that scenario decision again.

Life is pain....... anyone who says differently is selling something.
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Did Christian forget his own rules (the SPS incident)?

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It's was Carlton, they get to make up the rules as they go!
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(04-29-2019, 11:16 PM)LordLucifer link Wrote:Yes, I have always strongly advocated (and I think Brother Elwood may have as well) getting the best big guys you can to form the spine and then fill in the rest of the roles as they become available.

Good big players never get any shorter late in tight matches when fatigue starts to kick in, it is the big key position players who win you the big matches. I'm sure there will be someone wanting to argue to the toss on that but history has shown multiple times that the theory is correct even if there has been an alternative bob up for a one-off success.
Yep like you my evil lord I am old school and was an advocate of spine first and then fill in the gaps later, think we have achieved that after 20 years of mis-firing at the draft and we have a lot of those
gaps filled in as well...problem I see it is we need to close a few gaps in the coaching box and then the only way is up.
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