Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 6: Carlton vs. Hawthorn

[JonHenry]

It pains me to say it, but most of the good things coming from the field are Cripps-driven, and youth-driven. That nothingness at the top is very telling in games like yesterday. Exceptions being Krooz and perhaps Daisy.

What about Murphy?
Surely he provides leadership and guidance

[PaulP]

I'm not sure Kreuzer was injured? He just looked physically spent, hasn't had much of a preparation.

That's pretty much my thoughts as well. No mention of him in any of the injury reports I've seen post match.

[capcom]

It's not the coaching, it's not the game plan, it's not the match day tactics, it's not the structures, it's not the tagging.

Can someone tell me how many touches O'Meara had at 1/2 time ?

From memory, it was early to mid 20s.  Taylor made a comment about it

[PaulP]

What about Murphy?
Surely he provides leadership and guidance

This sounds like a set up question, but anyway, I'll play along.

Last night he wasn't great. He does what he can, but when compared to the Hawks leaders and senior players, our equivalents just aren't there. You can't just erase flags, habitual winning etc., and say it's a level playing field.

[cookie2]

Murph has spent pretty much his whole career in a losing culture, winning is not that familiar to him.

[PaulP]

From memory, it was early to mid 20s.  Taylor made a comment about it

Thank you. So he had half or more than half of his touches by half time. He had no tagger, and we were winning 8.4 to 3.3. Maybe the majority of AFL coaches are right and tagging is somewhat overrated ?

Tagging certainly has its place, and all coaches use it, but it's not a cure-all, and it does have a down side.

[PaulP]

Murph has spent pretty much his whole career in a losing culture, winning is not that familiar to him.

Yes, but it's not just him, Krooz, Simmo, Daisy since he came over.

[madbluboy]

That's pretty much my thoughts as well. No mention of him in any of the injury reports I've seen post match.

I saw him trying to chase in the last quarter and it looked like his body was shutting down. Puts a big hole in the Kreuzer can ruck by himself theory.

[PaulP]

I saw him trying to chase in the last quarter and it looked like his body was shutting down. Puts a big hole in the Kreuzer can ruck by himself theory.

I agree. He's getting to the point where he should spend more time on the pine in-match, or else give him a breather in the F50.

It has to be said, one quarter of vintage Krooz is better than a full game of Cas, Lobbe and Philips.

[Micky0]

Yes, but it's not just him, Krooz, Simmo, Daisy since he came over.

I love Murph, I think he was a great player who lead the club through a shit time and did it admirably - he has a lot of strengths and he is a great 'front' of club type of person.  Seeing him at family days, he outshines most of the others, with his enthusiasm and approachability - something I haven't found with many others at those types of days to be honest - yes they're all polite and friendly enough but you can tell 99.9% of them want to be elsewhere.  But Murph is not like that.

However, there has now been 2 or 3 times this season where there's a chance for him to win it for us, and he has failed again.  It is so disappointing - In one where he was kicked to and got the ball, he hesitated for a second and was tackled.  Is that an age thing? where the quickness of thought and doing starts to wane?  Or is it injury?  It just seemed so obvious to get the ball moving on.

That reminds me - I really hope Brendan teaches them to get rid of the fcking ball when we're in front of their goals and to get it into their heads - there is no time for what ifs, just do! Do not go across the face of goals, ever. never .Stop going backwards a mile to give them even more chance to score a goal (think it was someone way back to Jones and watdoyanow, they pressure, get the turnover, kick a goal.

Anyway, what a game. Still feel crook we lost!