Pre-Game Possibilities: AFL Rd 4: Carlton vs Gold Coast

[kruddler]

Yes, but as others have said - all three of our tall forwards are very mobile.....wish they'd just give Charlie a roving commission....he can be more damaging for us playing as high as the wing and using his engine across the park.

There is a difference between having tall forwards who are mobile, and having actual midfielders.

[flyboy77]

There is a difference between having tall forwards who are mobile, and having actual midfielders.

Yes indeed, and Charlie certainly has the capacity to play as a mid, not that I'd suggest he does other than in spurts.

The point being that all three of our tall forwards can harass, chase and tackle well.

Just need to see them lead!

(and the other 3 forwards contribute in a meaningful way too - I'd be giving Garlett a crack up forward if today doesn't pan out)

[flyboy77]

I also note Lobbe at 200cm will ruck against Witts at 208cm.

That's a big difference, even if not the be all and end all.

We really need to identify (for the future) a 205cm ++ ruckman.

[LP]

I also note Lobbe at 200cm will ruck against Witts at 208cm.

That's a big difference, even if not the be all and end all.

We really need to identify (for the future) a 205cm ++ ruckman.

Their height is a pointless measure, firstly many of those differences can evaporate dependant on things like arm length and jump stats. Secondly, a good aggressive ruck will make a tall meek ruck look worthless no matter what the height difference, and a ultra mobile aggressive ruck with good 2nd and 3rd efforts will join the chain of disposals and make a tall slow tap ruck look like a traffic cone.

We don't need another Warnock, ever!

[flyboy77]

Their height is a pointless measure, firstly many of those differences can evaporate dependant on things like arm length and jump stats. Secondly, a good aggressive ruck will make a tall meek ruck look worthless no matter what the height difference, and a ultra mobile aggressive ruck with good 2nd and 3rd efforts will join the chain of disposals and make a tall slow tap ruck look like a traffic cone.

We don't need another Warnock, ever!

Far from pointless or meaningless - and, as I stated, not the be all and end all.

But the taller bloke is very likely to have a considerably bigger wingspan too - do the maths!

Witts - 208, Gawn - 208, Preuss - 206, Sandi - 211.

All of those blokes are as mobile as any of our rucks, arguably better in the air and (Special K aside) on a par in terms of 2nd and 3rd efforts.

[LP]

Far from pointless or meaningless - and, as I stated, not the be all and end all.

But the taller bloke is very likely to have a considerably bigger wingspan too - do the maths!

Witts - 208, Gawn - 208, Preuss - 206, Sandi - 211.

All of those blokes are as mobile as any of our rucks, arguably better in the air and (Special K aside) on a par in terms of 2nd and 3rd efforts.

They are nowhere near as mobile as SpecialK, not even as mobile as Phillips or De Koning. On 2nd or 3rd efforts Preuss isn't even in the same league, he's awful, even worse than Sandilands who has almost nothing besides taps and marking! Sandilands brings intimidation, which elevates everything else, Preuss doesn't even have that!

Preuss reminds me of Ziebell, in that he has an angel behind the scenes somewhere who is pumping up his tyres based on a couple of nice VFL performances, not to say he won't make it but his reputation is unjustified!

Gawn is the best of that lot and he described his last head to head with SpecialK as being run into the ground, the hardest opponent Gawn has even faced!

And again, Warnock 206cm, case closed!

[PaulP]

They are nowhere near as mobile as SpecialK, not even as mobile as Phillips or De Koning.

Gawn is the best of that lot and he described his last head to head with SpecialK as being run into the ground, the hardest opponent Gawn has even faced!

And again, Warnock 206cm, case closed!

I think sometime last season Gawn rated Krooz as the best ruckman he's played against. Quite a compliment.

EDIT : https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/15/m...has-faced/

[LP]

I think sometime last season Gawn rated Krooz as the best ruckman he's played against. Quite a compliment.

EDIT : https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/15/m...has-faced/

Nice link PaulP

Grundy 202cm or Ryder 196cm, miles ahead of the vast majority of the taller options!

Cox 211cm, if height was the only thing he'd be a A-Grade ruck option, but despite his height he barely matches it in the ruck with Casboult! Guys like SpecialK and those two named above make Cox their bitch in the center and around the ground!

[flyboy77]

They are nowhere near as mobile as SpecialK, not even as mobile as Phillips or De Koning. On 2nd or 3rd efforts Preuss isn't even in the same league, he's awful, even worse than Sandilands who has almost nothing besides taps and marking! Sandilands brings intimidation, which elevates everything else, Preuss doesn't even have that!

Preuss reminds me of Ziebell, in that he has an angel behind the scenes somewhere who is pumping up his tyres based on a couple of nice VFL performances, not to say he won't make it but his reputation is unjustified!

Gawn is the best of that lot and he described his last head to head with SpecialK as being run into the ground, the hardest opponent Gawn has even faced!

And again, Warnock 206cm, case closed!

Case closed because you cited one 206cm bloke who was a dud?

Gee, hope you're not a scientist.

And might I remind you Matty K isn't out there (and hasn't been in 2019 yet) and he played 12 games in 2018 (in many of which when he was clearly injured or unfit or both).

[townsendcalling]

Poulson and Kennedy are the traveling extras. At least 1 will be included I’m sure.