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If Not BB, Who?
(04-16-2019, 01:11 AM)Lods link Wrote:At a guess I'd say he had a big influence in setting up the current group in charge.

If i were to hazard a guess, he was probably a lot keener on landing a big fish / coach / star player etc - the Old Carlton way. He doesn't strike me as one of those "the ox is slow but the earth is patient" types.
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(04-16-2019, 05:48 AM)PaulP link Wrote:If i were to hazard a guess, he was probably a lot keener on landing a big fish / coach / star player etc - the Old Carlton way. He doesn't strike me as one of those "the ox is slow but the earth is patient" types.

Mathieson is close to Loguidice and Silvagni. His nephew is a director.
He would have been right behind the rebuild strategy and with them in his ear probably maintains the general thrust of the approach.

I'm thinking it's a strong reason why we've continued to hold the line.
While there is that unity of approach at the top we'll probably continue with that...but that doesn't mean they wont think of changing personnel if things get super hard.
Ask Trigg...and maybe Andrew McKay.
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(04-16-2019, 06:47 AM)Lods link Wrote:Mathieson is close to Loguidice and Silvagni.
He would have been right behind the rebuild strategy and with them in his ear probably maintains the general thrust of the approach.

I'm thinking it's a strong reason why we've continued to hold the line.
While there is that unity of approach at the top we'll probably continue with that...but that doesn't mean they wont think of changing personnel if things get super hard.
Ask Trigg...and maybe Andrew McKay.

It's interesting speculating on the dynamics. My feeling is that Silvagni convinced (maybe browbeat) the Judge about the correct path, then both of them ganged up on Mathieson and forced / convinced him that he needs to be on board as well. Of course, it's pure guesswork on my part.
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(04-16-2019, 06:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:It's interesting speculating on the dynamics. My feeling is that Silvagni convinced (maybe browbeat) the Judge about the correct path, then both of them ganged up on Mathieson and forced / convinced him that he needs to be on board as well. Of course, it's pure guesswork on my part.

Of course we're only guessing but....
We'd have to know the dynamics of the Silvagni appointment to determine his influence
When was he approached?
What were his demands if he took up the position?

He was appointed in December 2014....but there was already moves towards a rebuild in April of that year.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl...53b2cf9433

Someone will write a book about what actually went on and some of the agendas in play during the 2014-15 years someday.
It will be a fascinating read.
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You'd think those covert meetings in Queensland are the tell, the ones we got fined for when we flew the attendees up their in a private jet! Wink

It's hard to see that as Liddle and the club working around or displacing Mathieson, or am I wrong?
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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Bolton will get the flick when attention and heat falls on SOS and MLG......those two will stick together and knife the rest until their turn comes.
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Given how we've just gone with the anti-gambling thing, you'd think the next step would be to get rid of the pokies....and that means mathieson too.

*fingers crossed*
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(04-16-2019, 07:10 AM)Lods link Wrote:Of course we're only guessing but....
We'd have to know the dynamics of the Silvagni appointment to determine his influence
When was he approached?
What were his demands if he took up the position?

He was appointed in December 2014....but there was already moves towards a rebuild in April of that year.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl...53b2cf9433

Someone will write a book about what actually went on and some of the agendas in play during the 2014-15 years someday.
It will be a fascinating read.

Yes, agree.
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(04-16-2019, 07:13 AM)LP link Wrote:You'd think those covert meetings in Queensland are the tell, the ones we got fined for when we flew the attendees up their in a private jet! Wink

It's hard to see that as Liddle and the club working around or displacing Mathieson, or am I wrong?
Whilst we have Mathiesons and Pratts pulling the strings, we will be a basket case. How long have they been involved at our club? How many coaches and CEOs have they sacked? Where has it got us? Common denominator?
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(04-16-2019, 07:20 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Whilst we have Mathiesons and Pratts pulling the strings, we will be a basket case. How long have they been involved at our club? How many coaches and CEOs have they sacked? Where has it got us? Common denominator?

The club cannot take their money and ignore their influence, it's a package deal.

All clubs exist this way, Nthmond had a hot line to two or three multimillionaires/billionaires, you will recall the turmoil just before they came good. I believe at one moment one of Nthmond's angels even threatened to withdraw funding/sponsorship, yet they didn't and the club still took their money!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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