If Not BB, Who?

[Thryleon]

x2 it's a huge worry.

By now you would have expected some of "the others" to have moments of brilliance or games of significance, but they just haven't! :o

It would be nice before the end of the season to see one or two of "the others" take a game by the throat and delivery a win on a platter!

The thing is we actually are improving.

Jones and weitering are putting in game winning performances, as are little Zac Fisher and SPS.  The problem is we cant seem to get them firing together, and we are still carrying far too many others that aren't even playing cameos.

It's why Ed's not in the guts and playing forward.

The cliff seems to have come for Simpson (was bound to) and Murphy might have run out of time too.  I noted he warmed up in runners again for round 1 and suspect he hasn't got long left.

Kreuzer and Docherty are two we have gambled on getting fit and out there performing but unfortunately it hasn't worked.

We simply need more time.

[flyboy77]

The thing is we actually are improving.

Jones and weitering are putting in game winning performances, as are little Zac Fisher and SPS.  The problem is we cant seem to get them firing together, and we are still carrying far too many others that aren't even playing cameos.

It's why Ed's not in the guts and playing forward.

The cliff seems to have come for Simpson (was bound to) and Murphy might have run out of time too.  I noted he warmed up in runners again for round 1 and suspect he hasn't got long left.

Kreuzer and Docherty are two we have gambled on getting fit and out there performing but unfortunately it hasn't worked.

We simply need more time.

I've been underwhelmed by Fisher this year tbh. Perhaps, like Charlie,he's caught up in his own press?

I expected a lot more.

[cookie2]

I've been underwhelmed by Fisher this year tbh. Perhaps, like Charlie,he's caught up in his own press?

I expected a lot more.

I'm beginning to wonder what effect the new rules may be having on some players and the roles they play? I have a fantasy team and many players, not only mine, seem significantly down on form and stats so far this year.

[madbluboy]

He is coming back from a broken leg.

[flyboy77]

He is coming back from a broken leg.

But completed a full pre season without incident?

[Thryleon]

Zac Fisher is playing as well as he ever has.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/...isher.html


The expectations on him have gone up, but his performances haven't improved (not that he needed to that much more to continue contributing) in line with that.  He is less flashy, and more consistent at the moment, and I am ok with that for a kid entering his 3rd year of senior footy after breaking his leg last year.

His contested posessions are actually higher this season than they were last season.  His uncontested lower, but not a far cry.

Its only a small sample size, but I was worried he would go into his shell this season, and thus far, he hasnt.  If anything he is wearing a bit more attention than he did last season, and is still contributing which is a big tick.  His 6 tackles in round 1 (particularly on Dusty) is a real highlight.



The reality is our senior players have dropped off, and our kids are not stepping up as much as we would have liked but the trend is still that the kids are stepping up, and so long as that continues, we should be ok.  The underlying worry and major concern is that our seniors have gone really far backwards which is why the kids are under huge pressure to stand up.  Ideally (and at most other AFL clubs) they would still be giving us bits and pieces on the fringes whilst our senior players do the heavy lifting which isnt the case.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Zac Fisher is playing as well as he ever has.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/...isher.html


The expectations on him have gone up, but his performances haven't improved (not that he needed to that much more to continue contributing) in line with that.  He is less flashy, and more consistent at the moment, and I am ok with that for a kid entering his 3rd year of senior footy after breaking his leg last year.

His contested posessions are actually higher this season than they were last season.  His uncontested lower, but not a far cry.

Its only a small sample size, but I was worried he would go into his shell this season, and thus far, he hasnt.  If anything he is wearing a bit more attention than he did last season, and is still contributing which is a big tick.  His 6 tackles in round 1 (particularly on Dusty) is a real highlight.



The reality is our senior players have dropped off, and our kids are not stepping up as much as we would have liked but the trend is still that the kids are stepping up, and so long as that continues, we should be ok.  The underlying worry and major concern is that our seniors have gone really far backwards which is why the kids are under huge pressure to stand up.  Ideally (and at most other AFL clubs) they would still be giving us bits and pieces on the fringes whilst our senior players do the heavy lifting which isnt the case.

Fisher has been getting more attention and even been tagged at stoppages..Powell Pepper had him in the Port game, he along with SPS is one of the few you would trust with
the ball to hit a target and i think other teams are doing their homework a lot more on us.
I mentioned Josh Kennedy from the Swans was tagging Cripps at the stoppages but some didnt agree, did the same with Clayton Oliver last night....more and more as our kids develop they will have to cope with more attention from better players and its the teams who can spread the load across more players who do the best.
Players like Murphy who dont do much damage with the ball will be the ones who will get less attention but need to lift and pick up the slack when kids like Fisher are being covered....

[jeza]

Zac Fisher is playing as well as he ever has.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/...isher.html


The expectations on him have gone up, but his performances haven't improved (not that he needed to that much more to continue contributing) in line with that.  He is less flashy, and more consistent at the moment, and I am ok with that for a kid entering his 3rd year of senior footy after breaking his leg last year.

His contested posessions are actually higher this season than they were last season.  His uncontested lower, but not a far cry.

Its only a small sample size, but I was worried he would go into his shell this season, and thus far, he hasnt.  If anything he is wearing a bit more attention than he did last season, and is still contributing which is a big tick.  His 6 tackles in round 1 (particularly on Dusty) is a real highlight.



The reality is our senior players have dropped off, and our kids are not stepping up as much as we would have liked but the trend is still that the kids are stepping up, and so long as that continues, we should be ok.  The underlying worry and major concern is that our seniors have gone really far backwards which is why the kids are under huge pressure to stand up.  Ideally (and at most other AFL clubs) they would still be giving us bits and pieces on the fringes whilst our senior players do the heavy lifting which isnt the case.

Zac, Samo, Dow, LOB, etc. current progressions dictates where we are at more than anything else.

Until these guys make that leap up to collecting 30odd possessions per week we won't be any sort of decent team.

[LP]

Is Fisher achieving the same efficiency in addition to the same number of possessions?

If I made a subject assessment I'd think he's getting the footy as much as ever but he's not using it as well as last season, he's under more pressure this year. At least that is how it appears to me! :o

[BluePhantom]

I think we starting to see evidence of this now. Each week they seem to be improving, each week the start to take the step forward. So far we have been more than competitive in our games, and our best players have been some of the younger generation next.

We play well in patches because we seem to do the team thing, playing the roles each player has been given. Then for some reason the team goes into shock or sleep and goes through the motions only to snap out of it to play well again to unluckily fall short.
Like Harford said with the girls, if they all follow the team plan for 4q then the reults will come and they did (except for the last game).
Play your role, follow the team game.
This is all being said hoping BB knows the Team's Plan first.  :o