If Not BB, Who?

[Lods]

The club has bet the farm on this rebuild, and I believe it is one of those "failure is not an option" scenarios. We have, IMO, backed ourselves into a corner, so in a very real sense, we have to make it work. If we finish bottom 4, as seems likely, and then we sack Bolton, what person in their right mind will want to come and coach us ? Only insiders like Teague or Barker will want the job. We have to see it through IMO.

Even as things stand now, I can't see either of the Scott twins having any interest and Ratten certainly won't come back. Lyon keeps getting mentioned, because of connection to SOS, but it's a long bow to draw IMO.

In some respects it's not the club that's bet the farm on the rebuild  but certain individuals within the club.
Some of those have already departed.
A new power group could easily distance themselves from that strategy.

Bolton is pretty well safe for the rest of this year.
But if things don't improve the pressure will only increase.

What would we do if it was a 'no signs of improvement' situation at the end of this year.
If replacing him is a bad option...surely sticking with him and the angst and damage in terms of division would be an equally poor option.
Hopefully the move upwards begins soon but...
At some stage the bullet would have to be bit.

As Paul suggests though  "Who would want the poison chalice?"
The likely scenario in that situation is that Bolton would not be the only casualty....rather a board challenge and a clean sweep of many positions would occur.
That challenge would bring with it a "new" probably "high profile" coach.

[PaulP]

Pauly make no mistake, candidates would queue up just as they did after MM's ugly departure. Having said that, I agree with you in that they will see it through.

IMO, if we sack Bolton this season, we will look like a joke and a rabble. If I was a coaching candidate, I would avoid us like the plague. I'd be wanting to land a job at places like Geelong or the Pies, who do proper reviews, make sensible plans and stick to those plans, not just take the easy option and sack the coach when the going gets tough. 

[PaulP]

In some respects it's not the club that's bet the farm on the rebuild  but certain individuals within the club.
Some of those have already departed.
A new power group could easily distance themselves from that strategy.

Bolton is pretty well safe for the rest of this year.
But if things don't improve the pressure will only increase.

What would we do if it was a 'no signs of improvement' situation at the end of this year.
If replacing him is a bad option...surely sticking with him and the angst and damage in terms of division would be an equally poor option.
Hopefully the move upwards begins soon but...
At some stage the bullet would have to be bit.

As Paul suggests though  "Who would want the poison chalice?"
The likely scenario in that situation is that Bolton would not be the only casualty....rather a board challenge and a clean sweep of many positions would occur.
That challenge would bring with it a "new" probably "high profile" coach.

Bomber Thompson at Geelong, and Buckley at the Pies have already been mentioned, so no need to do it again. The end of the 2020 season is when any real discussions about Bolton should occur. Anything before that is too early IMO.

[Lods]

Bomber Thompson at Geelong, and Buckley at the Pies have already been mentioned, so no need to do it again. The end of the 2020 season is when any real discussions about Bolton should occur. Anything before that is too early IMO.

I don't think we control the time frame.
That's a bit above our pay grade.
Results will largely decide when and if the axe falls....and change becomes easier to sell with each loss.
On the other hand a few wins have an amazingly stabilizing effect.

[flyboy77]

Bomber Thompson at Geelong, and Buckley at the Pies have already been mentioned, so no need to do it again. The end of the 2020 season is when any real discussions about Bolton should occur. Anything before that is too early IMO.

I very much doubt Bomber will be available....

[Thryleon]

I very much doubt Bomber will be available....

I think he means that their history points to not sacking Bolton until we can call the rebuild a failure.

FWIW I'm making a call, we'll start another rebuild at the end of 2021.  Either our experienced players will pull the pin leaving us with big holes to fill, or our kids wont be stepping up by then leaving us with holes to fill.

Either way there will be holes to fill.

[PaulP]

I don't think we control the time frame.
That's a bit above our pay grade.
Results will largely decide when and if the axe falls....and change becomes easier to sell with each loss.
On the other hand a few wins have an amazingly stabilizing effect.

I think failing to see the rebuild to the end of the 2020 season will be a disaster. That will compounded by your previous idea that a rival group could make a power play at board level, which will simply destabilise the club further. The main architects of the current rebuild (SOS, Bolton, MLG, Judd), will in all likelihood be pushed out. Zero chance of attracting any decent coach under such circumstances.

[townsendcalling]

http://bit.ly/2VHgv5y

“Why Carlton’s Green Shoots Aren’t Sprouting”

Interesting reading....

[PaulP]

http://bit.ly/2VHgv5y

Interesting reading....

Comparing 3 games vs 22 games is folly. At any rate, the first half of that story gives the "what", the 2nd half gives the "why." Nothing that hasn't been noted on here already. 

[LP]

Zero chance of attracting any decent coach under such circumstances.

I think right about now the trophy hunters get interested in the spoils, before things start to look up but after the bulk of the hard work is done.

Something to always remember as they grow louder!