Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney

[flyboy77]

AMEN.....

It was so funny listening to the commentators try to justify the Buddy 2 hand shove in the back of Jones "well, he didnt really extend his hands too far... "  "he didnt mean it"  "he had his fingers crossed"

An the McKay stuff is spot on.  As soon as he started to take a few grabs, bang, Swans plowing into him left and right, including taking his legs from him as he starts to jump.  When Sinclair went off with the broken nose - that was a direct result of a Swans player taking his eyes off the ball and hitting the pack head first, in a marking contest, as 1 of 4 Swans trying to maim McKay, he just missed and got his own player.  McKay got one chopping the arms, when it (or a tunnel, or a block off the ball) happens EVERY time............. hoepfully in a few years, when he is more of a name, he will get a few

That Buddy push was a shocker....no question there are two sets of rules. The umps helped them considerably (the age old AFL directive?)

The more I think about it the result wasn't a shocker - the Swans did play well - all their experienced heads TURNED UP.

Our experienced (older) heads were largely ineffectual - as usual. Will we ever see Murph swing a game or even be BOG - or close - again?

Won't see Ed kick 4 again in my lifetime. Why he isn't playing as a stopper bewilders me!

We blundered at the selection table AGAIN. Picked too many kids....Polson/LOB.

[ElwoodBlues1]

EB I made the same point in one of these threads last year about Cripps. If his current contract takes him to the free agency stage and he's been getting smashed from pillar to post week after week and we're still winning 3-5 games/season, no one in their right mind would condemn him for leaving the club and coming back to WA where his family are and playing for someone like West Coast who are in the flag window....he would've more than earned the payday and the chance to be a part of a premiership.

Like most, I was rapt when BB was appointed coach and at the youthful enthusiasm he brought to the table. But if we finish bottom again this year (and give up the number 1 draft pick) then there is absolutely no way he can stay on as coach...it's pretty cut throat but he'd be aware of that.

Your reply comment to my initial comment summed it up....after years of recruiting young guns with high end draft picks and trades....we still don't have anyone with elite kicking skills! How is that possible? That's not the coaches fault but if a young player has shortfalls in kicking skills, you don't just keep on recruiting those types surely?

Surfie...we need a young Pendlebury who has some real class and can give us some silk after Cripps has done the hard work in the middle.....same down forward, we need that Robbie Gray type who can kick a bag of five and give us some class to support our talls who are talented and are the real deal...

[flyboy77]

Surfie...we need a young Pendlebury who has some real class and can give us some silk after Cripps has done the hard work in the middle.....same down forward, we need that Robbie Gray type who can kick a bag of five and give us some class to support our talls who are talented and are the real deal...

Setterfield can be anything but we need to be patient....

Until we see what Pickett can bring, I'd love to see SPS forward more - he is one (like Pendles) who makes time stand still. And what of the luckiest man on the list, KymLeBois?!

Kennedy too has much potential as a forward imo. Hard at it, not slow (despite what some say - he was never in shape last year) and reads the play very well.

[capcom]

The simmering anger I've got is the useless summer training to drill in the basics of kicking until they get it right.  There are NO excuses for that and Bolton's gotta wear all of that.  You can't kick?  You don't play.  Hard intra club and drills until it's perfected

Say what you want about Malthouse, but he knew the pies were weak thru the centre so he  enforced the boundary line approach and damn well honed it to the point of brilliance within inches of the chalk from half back to half forward to cover the positional shortfalls

I am not enthused with Bolton at all.   

[LP]

Say what you want about Malthouse, but he knew the pies were weak thru the centre so he  enforced the boundary line approach and damn well honed it to the point of brilliance within inches of the chalk from half back to half forward to cover the positional shortfalls

Statistically we had a dominant midfield, despite struggling for wins we were right near the top of the tables for clearances and center breaks, yet MM applied the same handbrake game style that he'd applied at the Filth! :o

MM saw the boundary line arm-wrestle as the way to win finals, yet ironically he didn't win that many and when he did it was off the back of significant running power from guys like Daisy, Swan, Ball, Pendlebury, Didak, Matera, Mainwaring, Heady or Lewis!

It wasn't a bad game plan, but after a decade or more of being picked apart by opposition the chances of further success using it was at best slim.

The simmering anger I've got is the useless summer training to drill in the basics of kicking until they get it right.  There are NO excuses for that and Bolton's gotta wear all of that.  You can't kick?  You don't play.  Hard intra club and drills until it's perfected

I am not enthused with Bolton at all.

I'm not sure the skills issue has much to do with a senior coach at AFL level, but he does need to wear the tactical criticism.

[madbluboy]

Statistically we had a dominant midfield, despite struggling for wins we were right near the top of the tables for clearances and center breaks, yet MM applied the same handbrake game style that he'd applied at the Filth! :o

MM saw the boundary line arm-wrestle as the way to win finals, yet ironically he didn't win that many and when he did it was off the back of significant running power from guys like Daisy, Swan, Ball, Pendlebury, Didak, Matera, Mainwaring, Heady or Lewis!

It wasn't a bad game plan, but after a decade or more of being picked apart by opposition the chances of further success using it was at best slim.

I'm not sure the skills issue has much to do with a senior coach at AFL level, but he does need to wear the tactical criticism.

Didn't win that many finals? He holds the record lol.

[LP]

Didn't win that many finals? He holds the record lol.

How many finals?

[madbluboy]

How many finals?

27 off the top of my head.

[PaulP]

27 off the top of my head.

Yes, 52 finals coached, 27W, 23L, 2D.

[LP]

27 off the top of my head.

He's coached more games than any other, but he isn't in the top dozen for premierships despite holding the record for most finals coached. That must leave him with one of the worst strike rates over the longest coaching career ever! Just looking at the total and ignoring the efficiency seems a little deceptive!

Perhaps his best trick was staying in the job with a game plan that gave you an otherwise minimal chance of ultimate success!

The numbers are a clear tell, more games, more finals, but less ultimate success per number of games played.

Lets put this another way, if MM had been coaching us through the 70s to the same statistical success level we would have won just a one and a bit flags!

A mate who is into car racing put it best, MM is the Alan Moffatt of VFL/AFL, some who is there at every race meeting so he's got a chance!