Post Game Parlay: AFL 2019 Rd 3: Carlton vs Sydney

[PaulP]

I'm not talking about flogging blokes at training or tearing strips off them verbally, what we lacked yesterday was mental strength.
When the going got tough some of our players simply didn't handle it, they made poor decisions under pressure and made skill errors executing basic tasks which they could do with their eyes closed at training.
It's a lack of self belief as much as anything, which means that we become reactive and second guess ourselves.
Collectively we don't expect to win, and when it inevitably turns against us we can't find another way.
Call it what you will, but ultimately Bolton will have to take responsibility.

Wasn't this mental weakness / lack of self belief also the case under Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse and now Bolton ? So sacking the coach should solve it ?

[kruddler]

If Barbs was coach we wouldn't be worse because that would be impossible.

How quick we forget.

Do we need to bring back Pagans hall of shame to refresh your memory?

[blue4life]

Wasn't this mental weakness / lack of self belief also the case under Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse and now Bolton ? So sacking the coach should solve it ?

Under Pagan it was simply a lack of cattle, Ratten had a much better list and achieved some moderate success, Malthouse was a bad appointment from day one and it was a matter of time.
We still have holes in our list and are still well short of the top teams,  but we should be steadily improving with the talent we've added over the last three or four years.
That's all that supporters want to see, and that's why performances like yesterday are so disappointing.

[PaulP]

Under Pagan it was simply a lack of cattle, Ratten had a much better list and achieved some moderate success, Malthouse was a bad appointment from day one and it was a matter of time.
We still have holes in our list and are still well short of the top teams,  but we should be steadily improving with the talent we've added over the last three or four years.
That's all that supporters want to see, and that's why performances like yesterday are so disappointing.

Every year since Bolton took over, it's been 40%-50% new players that take the field - when you look at last season (for example), take into account the injury toll, losing Gibbs + Docherty........ Where exactly is this improvement supposed to come from ?

[madbluboy]

How quick we forget.

Do we need to bring back Pagans hall of shame to refresh your memory?

Bolton actually has a worse record than Pagan.

[kruddler]

Bolton actually has a worse record than Pagan.

Technically yes, but we are in more games with Bolton than we ever were with Pagan.
1 in 4 games we got belted by 10 goals or more.

Under Bolton its better than 1 in 5, despite more losses.....and despite not having Kouta, Fevola etc...

[Professer E]

I'm clutching here.... I've seen quarters in 2019 where we matched or beat (outscored)  sides,  although I never felt we could seriously win any of the past three games.  As opposed to 2018 when many games were over within 15 minutes and there were no periods of good footy,  just game after game of total dreck.  So based on the minutes of acceptable footy played,  I'd put us up on last season but like every body else I want to see four quarters of good footy.  Then wins will eventuate.

[blue4life]

Technically yes, but we are in more games with Bolton than we ever were with Pagan.
1 in 4 games we got belted by 10 goals or more.

Under Bolton its better than 1 in 5, despite more losses.....and despite not having Kouta, Fevola etc...

In our three spoon years under Pagan our percentages were 73, 75 and 74%.
In 2018 it was 59%.

[kruddler]

In our three spoon years under Pagan our percentages were 73, 75 and 74%.
In 2018 it was 59%.

2018 was our worst season in our history, so i'm not surprised.

Despite our 3 losses so far this year, and all the doom and gloom that it has brought with it, our % is currently 75.5%

So people struggling to see any improvement for you need to look no further.

BTW,
Tigers finished 1st in H+A last year
Swans finished 6th
Port finished 10th, but had a winning 12-10 record. That would've been enough to finish 7th in 2017!

So its not like we've had any easy games to start of the year, yet we have still been in every game up to this point.
Why is the sky falling again?

[blue4life]

2018 was our worst season in our history, so i'm not surprised.
Despite our 3 losses so far this year, and all the doom and gloom that it has brought with it, our % is currently 75.5%

So roughly the same as our spoon years under Pagan?
Things can only get better I guess.