FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN

[Thryleon]

There are a few layers of issue at the time but largely any lack of application didn't come because of financial difficulties.  My recollection was that the path to pursue an a league license cost 5 million dollars and required money to apply.

Think about the timeline.  It cost victory 4.5 million for their A league license.  500k contributed by FFA because they couldn't cover the full 5 million for the license.

The nsl was disbanded in 04 and a leagues first season in 05. 



Don't confuse effect with cause is what im getting at.  Were south Melbourne in administration and couldn't apply for a license or did they fall into administration because they were going to get denied a license and how better to manage your exit from the top flight be writing off bad debts? 

The administration and player departure happened when it was already apparent that a south bid wouldn't get up is my recollection of events.

[Gointocarlton]

[member=105]Thryleon[/member]  I get your stance, however I see it as a great shame because the sport (at the top flight) in this country actually needs people like you whether it be supporter level or admin.

[DJC]

There are a few layers of issue at the time but largely any lack of application didn't come because of financial difficulties.  My recollection was that the path to pursue an a league license cost 5 million dollars and required money to apply.

Think about the timeline.  It cost victory 4.5 million for their A league license.  500k contributed by FFA because they couldn't cover the full 5 million for the license.

The nsl was disbanded in 04 and a leagues first season in 05. 



Don't confuse effect with cause is what im getting at.  Were south Melbourne in administration and couldn't apply for a license or did they fall into administration because they were going to get denied a license and how better to manage your exit from the top flight be writing off bad debts? 

The administration and player departure happened when it was already apparent that a south bid wouldn't get up is my recollection of events.

Here's another history of SMFC "South Melbourne – Postecoglou and Puskas at the club that moulded the city’s Greek immigrants" at https://theathletic.com/2646261/2021/07/...mmigrants/

It repeats the same sequence of events:

"The good times could not last, however. The NSL was replaced by the A-League in 2004, and with Melbourne only authorised one licence and with the club in poor shape financially — entering voluntary administration — they did not apply for that licence. They remained semi-professional and returned to playing state-level football."

As I said previously, you would have to look at the documents for the voluntary administration to be sure, but it is most likely that SMFC was in trouble financially, went into voluntary administration and then did not apply for the A-League licence.

[Thryleon]

Here's another history of SMFC "South Melbourne – Postecoglou and Puskas at the club that moulded the city’s Greek immigrants" at https://theathletic.com/2646261/2021/07/...mmigrants/

It repeats the same sequence of events:

"The good times could not last, however. The NSL was replaced by the A-League in 2004, and with Melbourne only authorised one licence and with the club in poor shape financially — entering voluntary administration — they did not apply for that licence. They remained semi-professional and returned to playing state-level football."

As I said previously, you would have to look at the documents for the voluntary administration to be sure, but it is most likely that SMFC was in trouble financially, went into voluntary administration and then did not apply for the A-League licence.

bill papastergiadis has a different account of events.  There were a few backers i knew of whom were there.  The money was available.  Poor financial shape with the best academies and purpose built home ground in Melbourne at the time.

Im telling you, that things of that nature at the time are not what they seem.

[Thryleon]

[member=105]Thryleon[/member]  I get your stance, however I see it as a great shame because the sport (at the top flight) in this country actually needs people like you whether it be supporter level or admin.

I know what you're saying but you have to remember where I was at back then.  I was 22 years old.  Carlton had been struggling for 2 years already and we had just won our first ever spoon.  I completed a journey to Adelaide to watch souths last ever NSL match.  I was playing senior/reserve soccer and saw what happened to the lower comps and how exorbitant fees became.  Luckily I was getting paid a pittance to play and I was in a position to turn down the cash and play for free at my local soccer club.  Before the death of the NSL I was lucky enough to secure follow my team tickets to the European cup in Portugal to watch Greece in evey game they played.  At that time I vowed to stick to my struggling clubs because the sport showed me that miracles do occur and impossible is nothing. 

Thing is at every stage of my life the term wogball followed us around, and the FFA simply felt like they wanted to take the game away from us.  Johnnie Warren's book " Sheila's, wogs and p00fters " is how I remember this sport in this country.  I followed it anyway, but the Profesional era began and I found myself falling out of love with the game anyway.

South melbourne, blue and white forever.  The clubs are what makes your sport.  I wouldn't watch afl if Carlton weren't in it.

[Professer E]

Yea well that was a real possibility in the early 2000s

[bricky]

So tell me, the life bans they've issued to a couple of the scum bags, how they gonna police that? Facial recognition on entry? I call BS.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victo...5c9kv.html
It was already BS