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I feel bad for his family, but this media narrative of him being a 'lovable larrakin with a heart of gold' is sickening. He had a long history of domestic violence charges, stalking and harassing women as well as recent theft and fraud charges. By all accounts he was starting to turn himself around, but I can't stand people who re-write history as soon as someone dies.
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(10-29-2018, 11:27 PM)Navy Maven link Wrote:I feel bad for his family, but this media narrative of him being a 'lovable larrakin with a heart of gold' is sickening. He had a long history of domestic violence charges, stalking and harassing women as well as recent theft and fraud charges. By all accounts he was starting to turn himself around, but I can't stand people who re-write history as soon as someone dies.
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(10-29-2018, 11:27 PM)Navy Maven link Wrote:I feel bad for his family, but this media narrative of him being a 'lovable larrakin with a heart of gold' is sickening. He had a long history of domestic violence charges, stalking and harassing women as well as recent theft and fraud charges. By all accounts he was starting to turn himself around, but I can't stand people who re-write history as soon as someone dies.
I don't know anything about his private life at all, but it's still too young to die.
And I don't like people that jump to conclusions when they don't know the facts!!
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(10-29-2018, 11:27 PM)Navy Maven link Wrote:I feel bad for his family, but this media narrative of him being a 'lovable larrakin with a heart of gold' is sickening. He had a long history of domestic violence charges, stalking and harassing women as well as recent theft and fraud charges. By all accounts he was starting to turn himself around, but I can't stand people who re-write history as soon as someone dies.
Well said. Be respectful to the the family and friends, yes, and express genuine sorrow, but let's not minimise his crimes ...out of respect to his victims.
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(10-29-2018, 11:27 PM)Navy Maven link Wrote:I feel bad for his family, but this media narrative of him being a 'lovable larrakin with a heart of gold' is sickening. He had a long history of domestic violence charges, stalking and harassing women as well as recent theft and fraud charges. By all accounts he was starting to turn himself around, but I can't stand people who re-write history as soon as someone dies.
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10-30-2018, 12:45 AM
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Most of us are aware of the issues Silvia had, his DV issues in 2006 and his previous DD traffic offenses in 2011.
Not sure if he has any kids and the other issues should probably be left out of this thread, anyone is free to start another thread on the more general issue of how the media paint the fallen. Does anybody take notice when it is a bloke like Garry Lyon telling you how good someone is?
I gather some of you will see the contradiction in the way Silvia is portrayed compared to how the media treated Fevola back in his indiscretion era. Again there is a Lyon link, is it just coincidence?
On the accident itself, a two car collision, with allegations both occupants know each other and had been traveling together in separate cars.
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10-30-2018, 02:32 AM
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(10-30-2018, 12:45 AM)LP link Wrote:Most of us are aware of the issues Silvia had, his DV issues in 2006 and his previous DD traffic offenses in 2011.
Not sure if he has any kids and the other issues should probably be left out of this thread, anyone is free to start another thread on the more general issue of how the media paint the fallen. Does anybody take notice when it is a bloke like Garry Lyon telling you how good someone is?
I gather some of you will see the contradiction in the way Silvia is portrayed compared to how the media treated Fevola back in his indiscretion era. Again there is a Lyon link, is it just coincidence?
On the accident itself, a two car collision, with allegations both occupants know each other and had been traveling together in separate cars.
I don't think it warrants another thread. The topic is Colin Sylvia's passing and my comments related to the way his death (and life) have been documented by the media. You don't have to agree, but I think this false canonisation of people after they die is hypocritical and it is highlighted in this instance.
Even in your own comments, you touch on some of his issues, but fail to mention his convictions early this year for stalking and harassment. It's that picking and choosing that I think doesn't do any of society a great service. It minimises the damage that a persons action caused. For others out there who have been victims of such violence, to see a bloke heralded as a good person despite his flaws is disrespectful. By all means focus on the tragedy for its facts; a family is mourning the loss of a loved one and a young man has lost his chance to gain redemption. That is the tragedy. Turning him into a Saint just because he died does no one any favours.
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(10-30-2018, 02:32 AM)Navy Maven link Wrote:I don't think it warrants another thread. The topic is Colin Sylvia's passing and my comments related to the way his death (and life) have been documented by the media. You don't have to agree, but I think this false canonisation of people after they die is hypocritical and it is highlighted in this instance.
I think it's fair to weigh those comments by the people making them, and I think it's wrong to label all commentary as some how absolving Silvia for his sins.
But even so, many may argue death is hardly proportional justice, or even justice at all!
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(10-30-2018, 02:36 AM)LP link Wrote:You have to weigh those comments by the people making them, I think it's wrong to label all commentary as some how absolving Silvia for his sins.
But even so, many may argue death is hardly proportional justice, or even justice at all!
Sorry, I was editing my post when you've responded. I certainly don't believe he got what was coming to him or anything like that. My only gripe is with the commentary around the type of person he was.
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