Potential List Changes for the Northern Blues 2018

[DJC]

I think you are right, if Ben turned out ok then he would find his way to us anyway IMO but if he didnt make it its easier if Dodoro chops him than his dad...

Of course, Ben could have been tanking to throw other clubs off the scent  :-\

[Lods]

I dont quite get what appears to me as Silvagni hate on this site sometimes. If SOS wasn't our GM of List Management and Strategy, I would hazard a guess and say most would be frothing at the mouth to get Ben in as a FS. Our club has been devoid of FS's for far too long and it seems its because as a club, we tend to shy away from it. At least thats what it looks like to me. We have the Peter Dean Academy for sons of past players to be monitored, why haven't more come through? Is it simply that they are not good enough? If thats the case, fine but either way, its a damn shame I reckon. I guess many have questioned the clubs ability to develop players who have come in, it would be a stretch to ask the club to  assist in the development of kids not yet in our system.

It's probably a perception...the hate thing.
I love Stephen Silvagni. (in a supporter type of adoration )
He's one of my favourite players.
I have no problem with his actions during the salary cap situation.
He behaved a bit better than some of the others involved.
I've been waiting for his sons to come of age since they were born...to continue the family traditions.
I was wrapped when Jack was drafted...and have been looking forward to Ben because he was supposedly a better player.

But...unless he's being cleverly placed in hiding, Ben has not shown the form that would have him as a priority in terms of our drafting and if things fall into place we mightn't have too many picks left at the bottom of the draft to use on him.
A rookie spot...maybe.

[cookie2]

Absolutely no hate from me for SOS! I am happy for him to go about things as he sees fit - his performance will be judged on his results at the appropriate time.

[LP]

But...unless he's being cleverly placed in hiding, Ben has not shown the form that would have him as a priority in terms of our drafting and if things fall into place we mightn't have too many picks left at the bottom of the draft to use on him.
A rookie spot...maybe.

Yes, I think this is the reality of the situation.

A lot of fans just assess the lad on the surname, including some members of the this forum, and when anyone posts a realistic appraisal of the lad they get pegged as Silvagni haters. Not unlike when we post a realistic appraisal of SoJ and get slammed as Silvagni haters.

The irony for me is that it's the blind faithful and idolaters that heap the pressure on the kids to perform above their natural abilities, the very people who defend the Silvagni's will be their ultimate downfall becuase they have generated unrealistic expectations of the kids!

I can tell you from a very good source that Luke Hodge was incredibly impressed with the physical abilities of BSoS, that is not in question. Allegedly the question is does he want to be an AFL player badly enough? You have to want it to be a AFL player to get through the day to day, having the athleticism isn't enough, just ask Nathan Ablett!

I don't want us drafting the kid on hope and them allowing him to be torn to pieces by bitter fans and a ruthless AFL media just because in their perception he is blowing his chances! Let's face it, his boosters, idolisers and media critics will generally be the most vitriolic!

[Thryleon]

Yes, I think this is the reality of the situation.

A lot of fans just assess the lad on the surname, including some members of the this forum, and when anyone posts a realistic appraisal of the lad they get pegged as Silvagni haters. Not unlike when we post a realistic appraisal of SoJ and get slammed as Silvagni haters.

The irony for me is that it's the blind faithful and idolaters that heap the pressure on the kids to perform above their natural abilities, the very people who defend the Silvagni's will be their ultimate downfall becuase they have generated unrealistic expectations of the kids!

I can tell you from a very good source that Luke Hodge was incredibly impressed with the physical abilities of BSoS, that is not in question. Allegedly the question is does he want to be an AFL player badly enough? You have to want it to be a AFL player to get through the day to day, having the athleticism isn't enough, just ask Nathan Ablett!

I don't want us drafting the kid on hope and them allowing him to be torn to pieces by bitter fans and a ruthless AFL media just because in their perception he is blowing his chances! Let's face it, his boosters, idolisers and media critics will generally be the most vitriolic!

Even Nathan managed a premiership.

[flyboy77]

It's probably a perception...the hate thing.
I love Stephen Silvagni. (in a supporter type of adoration )
He's one of my favourite players.
I have no problem with his actions during the salary cap situation.
He behaved a bit better than some of the others involved.
I've been waiting for his sons to come of age since they were born...to continue the family traditions.
I was wrapped when Jack was drafted...and have been looking forward to Ben because he was supposedly a better player.

But...unless he's being cleverly placed in hiding, Ben has not shown the form that would have him as a priority in terms of our drafting and if things fall into place we mightn't have too many picks left at the bottom of the draft to use on him.
A rookie spot...maybe.

I would have said he has shown a heck of a lot more than Jack ever did at drafting stage.....? End of the day, the Club wil talk to the kid (as no doubt will his Dad separate;y and rightly so) and determine whether he wants it enough....

[kruddler]

The club has handled this BOJ situation brilliantly.

Not only have the clubs convinced other clubs he is no good, its convinced their own supporters he is no good.

He'll make it onto our list one way or another. He'll perform better than we expect because our expectations are currently rock bottom.

[LP]

Even Nathan managed a premiership.

True, but did he earn it or was it gifted?

What does 32 games over a 5 year career and 2 or 3 de-listings / retirements suggest?

That's the sort of stuff a Son of a Gun has to deal with, nobody will remember the premiership medallion!

[Lods]

I would have said he has shown a heck of a lot more than Jack ever did at drafting stage.....? End of the day, the Club wil talk to the kid (as no doubt will his Dad separate;y and rightly so) and determine whether he wants it enough....

Which games were those performances in?

I've no problem accepting his value if someone can show me where to see it.

Jack kicked six in a State game...a performance like that will do me

[LP]

Which games were those performances in?

I've no problem accepting his value if someone can show me where to see it.

Jack kicked six in a State game...a performance like that will do me

Lods, that was basically a one off against an injury decimated squad!

That very game created a unrealistic expectation of SoJ from fans!