2018 Rd 21 Post Game Prattle: Carlton vs Freo in Perth

[sandsmere]

Well Tragic... that post was a fine read indeed.
I think you're right in the MC motives, which like your post, have strayed as the season passed. Our injury toll and lack of depth undoubtedly spell: go to plan scrape-the-bottom-of-the-barrel.

Thanks for the great post????

Yeah! Well done Tragic.

[cookie2]

@ Tragic

I think you've pretty much got it nailed there mate. Well done, top effort!

[Micky0]

Agree Tragic!

[flyboy77]

Good post Tragic!

But it also highlights our 'holes' only too well.

1. A long term, top ruckman - Special K surely  must retire?

B. Preuss (206cm, 109kg) should be our target. 10 yr ruckman.

2. Mids, mids and mids - quality and experienced.

Surely we have loads of $$$ to splash about?

The Doggie twins, Grigg (SA), Holman, Schloithe, that other Crow rookie, Marlion ? from South Freo....Miles from Tigerland. Sam Fisher...

If we trade #1 for 2 first rounders and we get a PP (which surely we must as the AFL will be bending over to help Gold Coast) use 1 of the 3 picks on Shiel (if we get lucky) then 2 kids or more trading about....

3. Small forward

Garlett, Polson, Pickett, Lang - 3 out of those 4 don't seem overly hungry for it. The 4th shows ticker but little else (Polson).

Pickett needs to step it up next year, no more excuses....

So, Fasolo, Macadam (surely LeBois is goneski) looked at.....

[Tragic]

Good post Tragic!

But it also highlights our 'holes' only too well.

1. A long term, top ruckman - Special K surely  must retire?

B. Preuss (206cm, 109kg) should be our target. 10 yr ruckman.

2. Mids, mids and mids - quality and experienced.

Surely we have loads of $$$ to splash about?

The Doggie twins, Grigg (SA), Holman, Schloithe, that other Crow rookie, Marlion ? from South Freo....Miles from Tigerland. Sam Fisher...

If we trade #1 for 2 first rounders and we get a PP (which surely we must as the AFL will be bending over to help Gold Coast) use 1 of the 3 picks on Shiel (if we get lucky) then 2 kids or more trading about....

3. Small forward

Garlett, Polson, Pickett, Lang - 3 out of those 4 don't seem overly hungry for it. The 4th shows ticker but little else (Polson).

Pickett needs to step it up next year, no more excuses....

So, Fasolo, Macadam (surely LeBois is goneski) looked at.....

yes we do need a ruckman.  Philips looks atleast decent, but really struggles to stay on the park unfortunately.  What would Preuss cost us in trade - one of our lesser picks in the 20's?  seems like a fair deal.

Hopefully SOS has been in Shiel's ear and tells him to stay put until he becomes a free agent and we can grab him for nix.  Otherwise we'd have to dish out a pretty good pick to get him.  He grew up a blues fan FFS, we gotta get him.  Prefer not to give away picks to get him, but if we have to, we have to.  Kelly would be a little better, but I'd take either in a heartbeat.

the tough bit about trading for experienced but still youngish guns, is they cost a lot, generally 2 first rounders.  pulling one out of another team (not just talking about Shiel/Kelly) is expensive.  the only other way is to try and get a young bloke with promise for a late first, or second round pick.  SOS had a go at that, and we have to wait to see how it pans out, but so far Plowman, Marchbank, Kennedy & Lang are the ones he's tried to do that with.  the results so far are ok'ish, but not great, but we should wait until the end of next season to really judge those.  need to keep trying it though.  the swans and hawks have been the masters at it, the bummers did ok last year, the cats have had some success (with some of our players no less).  no excuses though - we need more quality mids, ready to go. 

i think you nailed the small forward issues we have - not enough hunger or impact.  Pickett is the most talented of that lot and gets one more chance.  we are crying out for speed, smarts, and pressure in the forward line, and none of them have all 3.  It is a priority for sure.

[flyboy77]

Yes, but Shiel will be a RFA come the end of 2019...why not deal now and relieve salary cap pressure....

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/...vnmeouhf9r

[ElwoodBlues1]

Yes, but Shiel will be a RFA come the end of 2019...why not deal now and relieve salary cap pressure....

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/...vnmeouhf9r

Agree...I'd offer the No 1 pick for Sheil and the GWS first rounder.....get GWS interested in dealing with us only.....

[bratblue]

Agree...I'd offer the No 1 pick for Sheil and the GWS first rounder.....get GWS interested in dealing with us only.....

We hold the cards there having the No 1 pick. If other clubs are going hard we have to deal now in any case.

[Professer E]

The handbags need a key forward really bad.  Duncan,  Menegola and their first rounder for No.  1?

[flyboy77]

We hold the cards there having the No 1 pick. If other clubs are going hard we have to deal now in any case.

And whether other clubs buy the hype on Lukosius too - will be interesting.

Still think a deal with the Crows is the obvious and easiest path. Our #1 (and pick #) for 7,15 and Pat Wilson/Luke Brown?

Or #1 for the Crouch brothers....

Or McGovern in the mix if he wants out.....