2018 Rd 20: Post Game Calm & Civilized Discussion: Carlton vs GWS

[LP]

Apologies Thry if I misread your comments....agree on your Obrien thoughts, I didnt even comment on him because that matchup was so heavily weighted to the GWS player, that wasnt a learning experience that was fighting out of your division.....interesting how GWS and Richmond(McIntosh) have reverted to the old fashioned tall winger.

We've blokes like Marchbank, Macreadie and Schumacher who should slip into that role in coming seasons. I suppose we'd hoped someone like Byrne would put his hand up for a gig but it's never happened. I have no idea why we aren't running Marchbank on the wing, or why we never gave Jones a crack while he was available! We tried poor SoJ there and they run him into the ground! It's like we are punishing ourselves so that we get better, it's all a bit too much Naughty Boy Self-flagellation for my liking!

Last quarter I agree....more the lack of effort from our players than Boltons coaching, we didnt have the equipment to compete and Cameron on the other hand had exactly what he needed to bury us with Ward on Cripps and Kelly all over our best tagger in Ed Curnow, wasnt much Bolton could do but ask for effort......

That's about the sum of it, really it was mostly men versus boys, with the only men we had out there pretty much unable to keep up!

[Professer E]

Assuming Weitering doesn't come up.

Play Kerr or De Konig from the square as a stay at home target to keep the defence honest and keep at least one defender deep.  Play a small at his feet to keep the FB nervous about spoiling.  Run Harry and Chuck higher up the ground, run their tall backs around and blow them up.    Schumacher and MacCreadie  wing/HB.  Maybe even Pickett in that role.

There's more run already.  Bugger o'shea off (5 disposals,  all clangers)  and we might even get the odd ball from defence without it coming back faster than it came out.

Give OBrien a week off.  Looks buggered and hence  ineffective. Tell Lang to get serious inside and replace Graham, who played the "is he even playing? " role on Sunday

That's three replacements already.

Somebody needs to clamp down on Neale and we can't let their half backs and running defenders have a party.. Polson,  Garlett, Wright should aim for a minimum of 6 stuck tackles each

Finally,  Play with some bloody intent.

[Micky0]

Being at the game it did not seem like there was that much in it for the second and third quarters. 

We then capitulated in the fourth which is just understandable considering where we are, the inexperience on the field and fact many aren’t up to running out a season yet anyway and...

[Professer E]

Bonar, in his first game,  had no trouble impacting and running out the game, but our kids like O'Brien didn't.  Either our kids are crap (a theory)  or the season has caught up with them and they're stuffed.

[Baggers]

We played like everyone just wants the season to end.

Good pick up. Those of us watching here on the teev yesterday thought the same thing... from the very get go, and we just shook our heads.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Bonar, in his first game,  had no trouble impacting and running out the game, but our kids like O'Brien didn't.  Either our kids are crap (a theory)  or the season has caught up with them and they're stuffed.

Bonar is a more physically developed player, he is a readymade.....OBrien, Polson etc are little auskickers in comparison...
You look at Melbourne and Roos/Goodwin were clear that they wanted bigger mids like Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw etc....if you are rebuilding you need to start with more readymade kids, you look at Stkilda and its the same story as us ..too many small lighter players in the middle of the ground.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Assuming Weitering doesn't come up.

Play Kerr or De Konig from the square as a stay at home target to keep the defence honest and keep at least one defender deep.  Play a small at his feet to keep the FB nervous about spoiling.  Run Harry and Chuck higher up the ground, run their tall backs around and blow them up.    Schumacher and MacCreadie  wing/HB.  Maybe even Pickett in that role.

There's more run already.  Bugger o'shea off (5 disposals,  all clangers)  and we might even get the odd ball from defence without it coming back faster than it came out.

Give OBrien a week off.  Looks buggered and hence  ineffective. Tell Lang to get serious inside and replace Graham, who played the "is he even playing? " role on Sunday

That's three replacements already.

Somebody needs to clamp down on Neale and we can't let their half backs and running defenders have a party.. Polson,  Garlett, Wright should aim for a minimum of 6 stuck tackles each

Finally,  Play with some bloody intent.

I just hope we dont do something stupid like start Polson on Walters...

[townsendcalling]

Good pick up. Those of us watching here on the teev yesterday thought the same thing... from the very get go, and we just shook our heads.

Those 2 gimmie misses by Curnow and McKay in the first quarter set the scene. 15846 heads dropped in the stands (I’ll give GWS a couple of hundred supporters) and 22 on the field. A 5 to 1 first quarter should have been 5:3. Those misses were coach and crowd killers.

[Professer E]

Collier-Dawkins, Hately, Valente or Smith  EB?

Hately might be ready made and matching it in the SANFL  but I wonder how much upside.  You thought his kicking was iffy as well.

[Gointocarlton]

Those 2 gimmie misses by Curnow and McKay in the first quarter set the scene. 15846 heads dropped in the stands (I’ll give GWS a couple of hundred supporters) and 22 on the field. A 5 to 1 first quarter should have been 5:3. Those misses were coach and crowd killers.

Spot on TC. I summarised it like this, they kicked them from everywhere, we missed from almost directly in front.