2019 - What do you expect from the club?

[LP]

Please email above to the club.

The club is fixated on being a good AFL citizen, Pavlov has beaten them into submission, we won't be making waves!

I wonder why, who do we owe, and what do they know?

[flyboy77]

I also expect, no demand, that blokes like Garlett, Kennedy and Lang, get proper management at the Club and get seriously and fully fit - with a full pre season - ahead of Rd 1 2019.

[northernblue]

I also expect, no demand, that blokes like Garlett, Kennedy and Lang, get proper management at the Club and get seriously and fully fit - with a full pre season - ahead of Rd 1 2019.

You mean ban injuries ? Yeah totally dude ????????

[Baggers]

2019:

Love PBs list

Here we go:

No trite slogans to buy time and encourage patience. Truth and facts please combined with ambitious expectations. If I hear "we won't put expectations on what we can achieve..." again, I'll rip off my own ears. How about something simple like, "It's our goal to play finals this year."

If I hear, 'not too high, not too low' again I'll spew up. When we win, celebrate, whoop it up (for a short time). When we lose... hurt, hate it, despise it, get outraged by it (also for a short while), it's what healthy humans do...

A much healthier list.

A new football manager (Macca's replacement) who will hold SOS to account re his recruiting (trades a resounding fail to this moment) and bring in another recruiting talent with a proven track record under not so easy conditions (not building a list with rampant AFL favour).

A return to some of the mongrel we saw in players in BBs first year. And it is sustained.

At least 3 new senior footy ready players in the 22 - 27 yr age group who arrive ready to play. No more broken cast offs. Ensure they've also got some hardness about them.

Either get BB a highly qualified and demanding Mentor or bring in a senior coach who understands discipline and not being a buddy to the players. Yes, I think BB is just too hands on/familiar/nice. The best leaders are a little detached and are highly skilled delegators. I am sure the current players love BB, but do they respect him? Or even fear him a little? I really like BB and think he's been handed a poison chalice in some respects, and that he is a round peg in a square hole. His ability to stand up to the media hostility has been outstanding (and he's had to do it with FA public support from the President / SOS etc).

A winning focus/culture/expectation/desire/demand...

Cripps appointed Skipper. We need a Captain who has some mongrel, no more nice.

Get McClure, Rhys, Dominator, Wallsy etc involved and active at the club in some capacity - blokes with a bit of flare in their nostrils and absolutely intolerant of losing along with a deep love and understanding of PP.

And although I was highly supportive of not going cap-in-hand to the AFL re a priority pick, I've done a 180. We should demand it. They've participated in the demise of this club and owe us. Yes, we contributed and got ourselves into this mess... to a degree. Those original sanctions were vindictive and excessive aimed solely at sticking it up Elliott. And those bludgeoning sanctions sowed rotting, putrid 'black shoots' which have borne too much ugly fruit - we became desperate and just about anyone would qualify to run the place (further into the ground) to the point where for too many years we've become a club mired in guilt and apology... and have been bending over for way too long. No more. Now is the time for angry, uncompromising competence/excellence.

Board: get some people on there who have ruthlessness and boldness about them. The Board should be right royally p1ssed off with our situation and act accordingly.

[kruddler]

Progressive Votes:
0 3487 - Cripps, Patrick (0)
0 1663 - Curnow, Edward (0)
0 1505 - Simpson, Kade (0)
0 1277 - Curnow, Charles (0)
0 1040 - Thomas, Dale (0)

I still can;'t understand why people are suggesting we need to retire the 2 bolded players.
Consistently in our bests, and both top 5 in the B+F thus far.

Have we learned nothing from the trading of Gibbs?
You simply cannot replace that type of quality with a draft pick.

I would very much hope that we keep these 2 for 2019 (and perhaps beyond?) as a huge hole (and about 550 games of experience by the end of the year) would appear in their absence.

Between them, they have played in more games than all players aged 22 and under combined (of which we have 23! inc rookies). 
....and still more when you include Graham, Phillips and Byrne who are over 23+ and played in a further 98 games between them.

So those 2 players offer us more games experience than our lowest 26 experience players combined. Frightening.

[Gointocarlton]

I still can;'t understand why people are suggesting we need to retire the 2 bolded players.
Consistently in our bests, and both top 5 in the B+F thus far.

Have we learned nothing from the trading of Gibbs?
You simply cannot replace that type of quality with a draft pick.

I would very much hope that we keep these 2 for 2019 (and perhaps beyond?) as a huge hole (and about 550 games of experience by the end of the year) would appear in their absence.

Between them, they have played in more games than all players aged 22 and under combined (of which we have 23! inc rookies). 
....and still more when you include Graham, Phillips and Byrne who are over 23+ and played in a further 98 games between them.

So those 2 players offer us more games experience than our lowest 26 experience players combined. Frightening.

Indeed

[capcom]

It would depend on what it freed up in terms of the SC, bot on the face of it, I'd hold on to both, Simpson especially

[madbluboy]

I would ask both of them to retire, they're not part of the future.

[northernblue]

I would ask both of them to retire, they're not part of the future.

Good idea, we’ll get smashed by double next year... even if we could replace them with similar but slightly younger players.

[deags]

They're both worth their wages just to have around the club. Most experienced players on our list, which is devoid of experienced players, and both consistently in our best both last season and this. Sure Simmo's disposal has not improved, but his experience down back is invaluable.