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2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane
#41
(07-03-2018, 01:40 AM)LP link Wrote:If Jenkins is such a good example, why did so many posters on this forum oppose trading for him?

Jenkins is good value when the Crows have Walker playing, Lynch, Eddie etc ...when he has to be the main man he doesnt assert himself and plays in a timid fashion which is strange given he is such a big unit.
We need a player who is prepared to be the main focus and lead the forward line, show some physicality and create for others....that aint Jenkins..
#42
(07-03-2018, 01:57 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Jenkins is good value when the Crows have Walker playing, Lynch, Eddie etc ...when he has to be the main man he doesnt assert himself and plays in a timid fashion which is strange given he is such a big unit.
We need a player who is prepared to be the main focus and lead the forward line, show some physicality and create for others....that aint Jenkins..

It's not McKay either at the moment, at the moment McKay plays more like Betts.

Kerr is much closer to this player, even if he's only a short term option until the others mature, Kerr leads straight up the guts and provides some structure. It's not Kerr's fault our rubbish disposal stops our mids and HBFs from kicking through the corridor.

Personally, if ACoS had gotten fit I'd have been playing him or Rowe up forward!

When I was around TAC Cup, the coaches under instruction from The Aints wanted KPFs doing 80% of their work as lead up forwards in a trapezium formed by the two point posts and the corners of the center square. It's not an unreasonable request, Johnno Brown made a career of it! It was as much about making forwards play in a predictable manner for the mids and HBFs as it was about the KPFs running the right patterns. Jack Riewoldt is probably the best current example, it would be interesting to see his heat map!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
#43
(07-02-2018, 10:19 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Didn't he get injured recently?

I lose track of our injuries..lol
#44
(07-02-2018, 10:19 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Didn't he get injured recently?

Checked it out. Missed last week with a leg injury. No idea how bad.
#45
(07-03-2018, 01:28 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree...Mckay kicks straight like Jenkins and has goal nous, sure the other parts of his game are not developed but he knows where the goals are
and we need players who can convert.

If we can keep playing the likes of O'Shea, Mullett etc surely we can play McKay. He'll learn alot more playing in the AFL.
#46
(07-03-2018, 03:42 AM)laj link Wrote:If we can keep playing the likes of O'Shea, Mullett etc surely we can play McKay. He'll learn alot more playing in the AFL.

McKay doesn't have a defensive running bone in his body!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
#47
(07-03-2018, 04:11 AM)LP link Wrote:McKay doesn't have a defensive running bone in his body!

Not entirely true LP, but he certainly could work harder when the opposition has the ball.  I think that’s something he has to work on the VFL
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
#48
Hes a kid and simply not ready.

He can do everything at AFL standard for about 1.5 quarters, and the rest will come with confidence, physical condition and increasing his workrate.

I look around the AFL and I see that the players performing the best are seasoned competitors, and athletic beasts.

We are carrying players for at least half a game, and people will point to the easy targets such as Mullet and Cam O shea, but the reality is, that its blokes like Mckay, Kerr, Cunningham, SPS, Dow, O'Brien, Kennedy, Weitering, SOS that are giving us about 2 to 3 quarters of footy (not sequential, they drop out of games for about 5-10 minutes at a time) but thats enough for opposition to get a run on and score quickly against us, and the ones carrying a significantly bigger load than they should are in their late 20's and early 30's and are breaking down themselves.


Don't ask the question of why isn't he playing.  Its a basic question.  he isnt playing because he isnt 4 quarters at AFL level fit for 22 rounds a season, and he might get a guernsey against Brisbane this week, but we need to pick his opposition because otherwise, its just sending the other blokes out there down a man from the start of the game, which starts to wear thin.  Weve done it a lot this year for various reasons, and have a think about the environments around the AFL.  We are relying on 20 year olds to be 4 quarter AFL performers in so many different roles, where other clubs will have only one or two, and those two dont play every week.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
#49
(07-03-2018, 11:45 PM)DJC link Wrote:Not entirely true LP, but he certainly could work harder when the opposition has the ball.  I think that’s something he has to work on the VFL

Well, I accept the extreme nature of my comment, but relative to AFL standards he's pretty ordinary! ;D

(07-04-2018, 12:09 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Hes a kid and simply not ready.

That's the reality of about half our current list!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
#50
(07-03-2018, 04:11 AM)LP link Wrote:McKay doesn't have a defensive running bone in his body!

You haven't watched alot of him them. Averaging 2.3 tackles a game this year.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-c...arry-mckay


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