2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle

[Jack Burton]

My interpretation was that it is more about repeat leads. Kerr leads well, but if the ball doesn't get kicked to him he seems to get lost and wander around rather than pushing hard back and going again

[blue4life]

Reading the report in the Sunday paper it was pretty scathing, the only two players who got pass marks from the journo were Simpson and Cripps.
He said that Kreuzer provided something up forward in the third quarter and that Ed battled away although he butchered the ball.
Basically he said that we made every mistake in the book, and he quoted Mark Maclure as saying that it was the worst performance he'd ever seen from a Carlton team
So we aren't in a good place, the next couple of weeks will tell us whether we can show some resolve or wither on the vine.

[DJC]

You're getting a bit radical now ProfE!

As much as he's been better this season, he just doesn't bring what we need 200cm players to bring, physical presence and intimidation.

Fans expect Murphy to be Hodge like, while at the same time giving some of our 200cm types like Levi and Jones a pass mark for bruise free and intimidation free football! There is a reason Kreuzer, Rowe and ACoS(When he's fit) stand out, and why in the absence of Williamson and Macreadie we look a bit soft!

But hardness can be stuff other than intimidation, it can be gut running like Murphy(Bradley being the A-Grade example), but other than Kreuzer our 200cm types don't bring that either! I'm not expecting them to be heavy weight boxers, MMA fighters or Olympic Triathletes, but they have to bring something of those characteristics if you are recruiting players like Wright, Fisher, SPS, Pickett, Le Bois, Garlett and O'Brien to play at their feet. It's Levi's absence of physicality that makes it impossible for our smalls to operate in F50, it's why I prefer Kerr long term because he is prepared to use his bulk to a team-mates advantage.

For Levi he has to physically intimidate opposition players, or he has to run the opposition ruck into the ground, the occasional mark jumping over the pack just isn't enough!

As much as fans like Jones, he's damaging our D50 because he won't mark the ball even when he's clear, our KPDs are in general gun shy to marking! Jones also not physically intimidating, but he does jump, run and chase, why not "set him free" and let him do that where it does far less harm! Not as a KPF, but as a small forward or HFF! We are chaotic going into F50 anyway, it's not like he is going to destroy our structure because as far as I can tell we have none!

Over analysing things perhaps LP?

I saw Casboult put Sandilands down, and he took quite a while to get up. That’s not a bad effort for a bloke returning after a broken rib.

I reckon Jones did pretty well with his marking too.

Jones and Casboult are the least of our problems; a shallow, undersized midfield and playing Simpson, Thomas and Lamb as defenders puts us behind the eight ball ???? to start with.