2018 Rd 9: Post Game Calm: Carlton vs Melbourne

[LoveNavy]

FMD...  It really matters what jumper you wear doesn't it?

You got that right????

[Barbs]

There can be no doubt Kreuzer is our best ruck option. The  lad is champ and like many are saying does his best work by spending most of the game at the coal face pushing opposition midfielders around.

But reality is he won't be making the taps to our next premiership winning midfield. He is vital to our short term survival, but we need a plan B and I doubt it is either Philips or Lobbe

[LP]

There can be no doubt Kreuzer is our best ruck option. The  lad is champ and like many are saying does his best work by spending most of the game at the coal face pushing opposition midfielders around.

But reality is he won't be making the taps to our next premiership winning midfield. He is vital to our short term survival, but we need a plan B and I doubt it is either Philips or Lobbe

You have heard of De Koning and Mckay right?

[northernblue]

I was debating with Lods jumpers now versus back then, you need to read a whole thread before you comment.

The idea posted earlier that jumpers are a tell about a player's intent is rubbish, step in SOS or Hunter!

I did read the whole thread, but I got lost following the worms in your head, I do agree with you that long or short sleeves have nothing to with a players “intent”

[Barbs]

You have heard of De Koning and Mckay right?

Yes. But neither is a proven replacement yet. The catch 22 is that the only way they get that sort of experience is by displacing Kreuzer - and consensus suggests he does his best work when he's rucking solo for nearly the whole match.

[Gointocarlton]

There can be no doubt Kreuzer is our best ruck option. The  lad is champ and like many are saying does his best work by spending most of the game at the coal face pushing opposition midfielders around.

But reality is he won't be making the taps to our next premiership winning midfield. He is vital to our short term survival, but we need a plan B and I doubt it is either Philips or Lobbe

Just to show you dont need Polly Farmer or Big Nic to win a flag, here are the last 10 Premiership Ruckmen:
2017 Toby Nankervis
2016 Jordan Roughead Tom Boyd
2015 Ben McEvoy
2014 Ben McEvoy  David Hale
2013 Max Bailey David Hale
2012 Mike Pyke Shane Mumford
2011 Brad Ottens Tent West
2010 Darren Jolly Leigh Brown
2009 Mark Blake Brad Ottens
2008 Robert Campbell Brent Renouf

[Barbs]

Just to show you dont need Polly Farmer or Big Nic to win a flag, here are the last 10 Premiership Ruckmen:
2017 Toby Nankervis
2016 Jordan Roughead Tom Boyd
2015 Ben McEvoy
2014 Ben McEvoy  David Hale
2013 Max Bailey David Hale
2012 Mike Pyke Shane Mumford
2011 Brad Ottens Tent West
2010 Darren Jolly Leigh Brown
2009 Mark Blake Brad Ottens
2008 Robert Campbell Brent Renouf

Not exactly all plodders there.

[Gointocarlton]

Not exactly all plodders there.

Not a list of superstar ruckman either, especially the last few years.

[Barbs]

So our pathway to success is to trade out Kreuzer to save salary cap space and let Casboult take over the ruck until De Koning is ready to carry the load in 2020?

[ElwoodBlues1]

This part time ruck/odd job player started with Jolly and Leigh Brown ...Brown wasnt much of a ruckman but he used to run around cleaning up players and being more of a physical presence rather than providing any ruck stats..