2018 Rd 9: Post Game Calm: Carlton vs Melbourne

[PaulP]

Yep it does.
We are weak as piss. Literally, and have been for years.
We papered over the cracks with Judd who was as tough as they come.
Now we are going to crucify Cripps in the same way we did Judd.

You are almost correct, the game is WON by big strong fit men.
We have thrown too many kids in at once. They need strong leaders to look after them and show them the way.

Jones is a small part of this. He is 6'5" or bigger, athletically as capable as anyone playing but just doesn't impact the contest enough.
When he does he looks great but if he gets a bag kicked on him every 2-3 weeks its pointless.

They will improve drastically with E Curnow back because he adds toughness, but why not put Kerridge in there to bash and crash. It's not like he has silky skills we need to protect.

I'm not sure that Judd was as tough as they come, but that's a discussion for another time.

I think Jones has no brains and really has to be told where to run, where to stand etc. Without Docherty he makes too many bad decisions.

We need 100 pieces to complete the CFC jigsaw puzzle. The points you make are valid, but they are only 3 or 4 of those pieces.

In round 4 we had both Curnows, Kennedy, Casboult, Cripps was captain.... and you know what happened in that game. I'm not in any way blaming those named individuals, merely pointing out that either our problems are extremely deep, or that we are much earlier into the rebuild than anyone imagined.

[cookie2]

Kerridge isnt as good as the Cats second stringers like Duncan, Guthrie, Menegola........
If you look at our onballers two things stand out.....very slow and poor kicking.......

We wont get anywhere negating either IMO....Ed is enough, we need more creative players who can help us score.....

Fresh out of those though EB. So what do we do? Persist with those who have failed already or try other options?

[LP]

Kerridge isnt as good as the Cats second stringers like Duncan, Guthrie, Menegola........
If you look at our onballers two things stand out.....very slow and poor kicking.......

We wont get anywhere negating either IMO....Ed is enough, we need more creative players who can help us score.....

Don't forget Horlin-Smith!

Doesn't the old saying apply, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result!

I recall a couple of years ago Ed being freed up against GC and doing OK, he's in a rich vein of form at the moment and now is as good a chance as he'll ever get!

I don't think that he is.
He fumbles under pressure and has a copybook kicking action but sprays the ball around, I don't think that he has the mental toughness to perform consistently at the top level.

Kerridge's persistence seems to fly in the face of any suggestion than he lacks mental toughness, maybe he lacks agility. But it's clear to me that more than anything else it's polish that he lacks, not desire, drive or persistence. Give him a role, make sure he accepts it as his fate and his future, that removes the need for polish.

[JonHenry]

Kerridge is a bit part mid who kicked a couple of bags of five goals for a talented Crows team but thats about his only claim to fame...I'd be playing kids like Cuningham, Polson ahead of him and delisting him at years end.....

Agree but or these kids will get smashed off the park.
We need mature bodies around the contest.
Makes no sense playing him on a wing or flank.

[LP]

Agree but or these kids will get smashed off the park.
We need mature bodies around the contest.
Makes no sense playing him on a wing or flank.

Agreed, if Kerridge is in, he needs to be in the heat!

[PaulP]

Agree but or these kids will get smashed off the park.
We need mature bodies around the contest.
Makes no sense playing him on a wing or flank.

Agreed, if Kerridge is in, he needs to be in the heat!

Agree with both gents, but would prefer he does a Crippa and focuses more on hand balling and less on kicking - will get himself and the team into less trouble

[townsendcalling]

While the likes of Essendon, Collingwood, Richmond etc have vile uncouth supporters, Melbourne has pompous ar$ehole$. They have not had a decent sniff since 1964, had 26 resets or rebuilds in that time with no silverware to show for it (I've seen 8 premierships in that time, Buddy!).  I remember a wanker back in Lance's day say that they'll win 5 flags before we win our next because we play fat slobs! 'Go Dees!!' Yeh good luck, they'll build up to let down again...nothing surer! 

[ElwoodBlues1]

Agree but or these kids will get smashed off the park.
We need mature bodies around the contest.
Makes no sense playing him on a wing or flank.

I'm looking for education and a couple of kids to stand up for the future...I expect to be smashed off the park either way...
I agree Kerridge will provide more cover but I'm over looking for respectable losses or saving some kids from a bruise or two.....

[LP]

Agree with both gents, but would prefer he does a Crippa and focuses more on hand balling and less on kicking - will get himself and the team into less trouble

That is exactly what I am on about, if we let the opposition set Kerridge up as our distributor of the football, that is our fault not his!

These are the basics we do not do well, we are too robotic.

[cookie2]

While the likes of Essendon, Collingwood, Richmond etc have vile uncouth supporters, Melbourne has pompous ar$ehole$. They have not had a decent sniff since 1964, had 26 resets or rebuilds in that time with no silverware to show for it (I've seen 8 premierships in that time, Buddy!).  I remember a wanker back in Lance's day say that they'll win 5 flags before we win our next because we play fat slobs! 'Go Dees!!' Yeh good luck, they'll build up to let down again...nothing surer!

Yep they have plenty of them but we did encounter a couple of their vile uncouth types on Sunday as well.  )