2018 Rd 9: Post Game Calm: Carlton vs Melbourne

[cookie2]

Nothing positive to say after that, turned off at the start of the 3rd but it was all over long before. Pick yourselves up, dust yourselves off and train hard this week. Oh and bring your mouth guards. What I do know is that inconsistent sides like ours lose the winnable and win the losable. They are likely to drive down to KP and knock off the Cats this week.

GTC that last sentence shows just how vivid your imagination can be!  )

[ElwoodBlues1]

Liam Jones can be your best friend or your worst enemy.
He is a 'chaos creator'...but  creating chaos on the backline isn't always productive.
A good game last week and he started well today with a couple of strong marks but it went downhill pretty quickly.
Not that he had much chance with the way the ball was coming in but he played well off his man again so he virtually gave himself no chance.

With Casboult out today was a day we could have used him in that second ruck position and brought Weitering in to play his role.

Fair point on Jones...Gawn was smashing us anyway in the ruck, Jones big athletic frame in the middle would have been more useful in the old fashioned follower role.....
The defense was horrendous as a group......Thomas was tagged and we lacked a bit of leadership with Rowe out of sorts too...

[rocky]

Used my son's MCC provisional membership to get a couple of tickets for the wife and myself to have a family day at the footy. Great idea! Ended up leaving half the way through the last. Worst performance I've seen for many years.
Just have to add worst coaching for many years as well. As one point in the game we had a 4 man forward line. I think it was when we were 6 goals down and we STILL bombed it in long. Defies logic.
9 games in and we are still playing Mullett, O'Shea, Kerriga, Graham, Garlett, SPS, Jones, PlHaven't they had enough chances?  Are the blokes running around in the two's really that bad that they can't get a gig?? Seriously?
No system, no passion, no idea.

[laj]

We had better efficiency inside 50. 17 shots from 33 inside 50s...hahaha.

We must've missed a couple completely to get the count to 17.

[blue4life]

A few harsh on SPS. 22 possessions, was actually throwing himself into the packs, 6 tackles. A significant improvement on recent efforts IMO.......after 28 career games.

I had him among our best, he kept grinding away when all was lost.
What I didn't like to see was Plowman run onto a ball with about 10 minutes to go then spray it wide and miss the lot under no pressure, good footballers go just as hard 10 goals up as 10 goals down.
Docherty would have nailed it.

[cookie2]

Agree wasnt our worst and in conditions that probably dont suit him......Nick Graham was amongst our best and clearly the sting taken out of the track suited a slower player like Graham.
We just dont have the big bodies apart from Cripps and in conditions like that especially when Gawn dominated the ruck we were going to struggle...E. Curnow was a big loss in those conditions..
Melbourne did their homework too and had some good matchups, we struggled in the coaching box and were slow to move players IMO.....
Melbourne are an ok side but not 100 points better IMO....OShea, Mullet and Rowe were woeful which didnt help either.....

EB we were like little boys being pushed around by tough big men. Our tackles were contemtuously shrugged far too often. The need for bigger bodies at the coal could not have be made more obvious.

[laj]

Agree wasnt our worst and in conditions that probably dont suit him......Nick Graham was amongst our best and clearly the sting taken out of the track suited a slower player like Graham.
We just dont have the big bodies apart from Cripps and in conditions like that especially when Gawn dominated the ruck we were going to struggle...E. Curnow was a big loss in those conditions..
Melbourne did their homework too and had some good matchups, we struggled in the coaching box and were slow to move players IMO.....
Melbourne are an ok side but not 100 points better IMO....OShea, Mullet and Rowe were woeful which didnt help either.....

"Struggled" is probably a nice word about our effort in the coaching box. I had other more colorful words...lol.

[Jeffy38]

Depends on whether it's a full or partial tear, or if it's just a strain.

I feel there is more to this than BB, it looks like there is more to this than BB, I wonder if he is being undermined.

That’s one hell of a leap. Im gutted by today’s loss but you look at what we put out there and the effort of some individuals- we have some good assistant coaches, I see this more as players not listening or being capable of playing to instruction.

Ducking kerridge - kicks round corners instead of playing percentages, daisy try’s to play champagne football to LOB when Spumante would have been the better option. Jones failing to get body contact with his opponent ....the list goes on. I agree wiTh an earlier post, get rid of the spuds and let the kids play!

[capcom]

No matter what way you cut it, I believe that's our biggest ever loss to Melbourne.  Something is seriously wrong.  Game plan non existent, recruitment worse, injury rehab and depth pathetic .. I won't go on

[LoveNavy]

A few harsh on SPS. 22 possessions, was actually throwing himself into the packs, 6 tackles. A significant improvement on recent efforts IMO.......after 28 career games.

I agree and said as much in the game thread.
He went in hard today compared to previous games. His vision, decision making, and handballling was improved. There were a couple of times this resulted in getting it out of congestion to a teammate in the clear. It fell apart then as we were outnumbered or outmuscled.

I think Samo is building slowly, which is all you can ask for of a 2nd year player. Little Zac has been the more steady improved this year. Today though, he struggled to find any consistency. More a symptom of the team IMO. Young 1, 2, 3 year players will have poor performances every few games. Our problem is we can't cover for all the youngsters in a game, let alone game after game. Some of that is the flow on effect of so many injuries.