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(05-04-2018, 01:46 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'd call those three the finishing touch to their list, Shiel is more of a core player like Martin or Cotchin IMO...
Caddy has been the real surprise...tough ,intimidating and a goal kicker, exactly what we need and very hard to obtain....
No doubt EB1, thats why I am stating it shouldnt be an either argument, but BOTH and a bonus of as many others as we can.
We should be looking at more types who are surplus to requirements and looking to extend their careers somewhat.
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(05-04-2018, 04:36 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:No doubt EB1, thats why I am stating it shouldnt be an either argument, but BOTH and a bonus of as many others as we can.
We should be looking at more types who are surplus to requirements and looking to extend their careers somewhat.
We wanted Caddy for this very reason, but I'm not sure he'd prove durable in our side, it's much easier to do this alongside Dusty and Cotch than to try it solo!
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(05-03-2018, 02:43 AM)LP link Wrote:Bartel makes a good point, who'd have thunk we need a mature experienced proven KPF! :
Tom Lynch wouldn't do you much good sitting in forward 50 catching a cold with the ball not getting down there. Bartel's point came across as if he was making it up on the spot which is why it was probably so poorly thought out.
Gaff / Dalhouse / Sloane / etc. are absolutely who we should be targeting. If you have more than 2 or 3 tall forwards you can't fit them all in your team and you can survive with only 1 - as Richmond have shown.
If you have 10+ midfielders you can definitely fit them in your team. We start a game with 3 guys carrying legitimate credentials as midfielders. The opposition have 13. That is where we're getting slaughtered and where we need so much more quality.
We are patiently waiting for the kids to mature and we will continue to do so but we need to load up from other clubs - in the midfield.
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(05-04-2018, 04:40 AM)jeza link Wrote:Tom Lynch wouldn't do you much good sitting in forward 50 catching a cold with the ball not getting down there. Bartel's point came across as if he was making it up on the spot which is why it was probably so poorly thought out.
So far this season the Inside Fifty difference between the top and bottom is not that great, but we are by far the worst team at turning an entry into a goal, we are dead last on the table the scoring efficiency, which is reflected by our low standing for goals and goal assists!
We have about 80% of the top teams Inside Fifties, but only 60% of their goals and 50% of their goal assists.
Tom Lynch or any other useful tall forward would get at least 80% of the opportunities that are delivered by the top teams.
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We're woefully deficient in midfielders, and will remain that way for 2-3 years unless we bring in some ready mades
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A decent midfield covers a lot if sins.
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(05-04-2018, 12:37 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:We do have Fisher (finding his feet quickly), Lang (should be in the 1s next week), SPS (presently on holidays), Garlett (needs to get involved more but oozes class) and Pickett (cursed) to provide outside run....
O'Brien will be a beauty.
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(05-04-2018, 03:22 AM)LP link Wrote:The midfield is already sorted, it just needs the time and stability, any reasonable person can see that!
I started a post earlier today to argue against this and ended up scrapping it because I came around to the opinion that it was looking pretty promising.
We have known quantities in Cripps, Murphy, Ed Curnow
Kennedy and Lang we'll have to wait until they're fully fit.
Fisher looks like a long term player for us.
SPS Cunningham Polson have potential... it depends on their development.
Dow and O'Brien the same.
Throw Docherty into the mix, which may possibly have been the intention if he hadn't been injured, and it doesn't look too bad.
With the one qualification that our development of these young players has to be better than it's been in the past.
...and a tilt at an available elite midfielder wouldn't go astray 
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(05-04-2018, 08:49 AM)blue4life link Wrote:O'Brien will be a beauty.
Totally agree. Something special about this kid.
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(05-03-2018, 08:51 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Positively masochistic! ;D Been in pain since the early 2000's, with a brief breath of fresh air when Judd came across, then back to more pain since Ratts was given the boot. Although not having won a game in our last 14? Outings I am sticking fat and being patient.
The amount of top end talent we have is absurd. Another 50-60 games together and we will be rewarded.
Problem that we will deal with as does every bottom club is player retention. Free agency has sorted it good and proper. Our jury list atm is concerning as well. But this "reset" is going to have its ups and downs and right now we are in a very down period. Only way is up from here. Must sign Cripps to a 9 year $8 million deal >  and give him the captaincy with Doc next year
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