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(04-28-2018, 06:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Old mate David Rhys-Jones hit a few btw he eyes on the way out with this post on a FB page. Love the passion Ol Boy
I used to think this page was for true blue Carlton supporters, not a bunch of whingers. None of you have played a game or have any real knowledge of the sacrifices and dedication made by a lot of good people, but are self appointed experts. After the last couple of weeks of bitching and moaning, I am happily going to unfollow this thread. Look up the meaning of supporter some of you fickle keyboard warriors. I’m sure in a couple of years when we have 50+ games into these kids and start climbing up the ladder, you so called experts will be claiming some sort of justification of knowing it would happen. I will continue to SUPPORT the club, it’s players, coaches and administration, not take the easy way out and throwing insults and derogatory comments at good people who are doing there best to get this club it’s 17th premiership. See ya
This attitude pisses me off.
This apathy towards supporters expecting us not to get annoyed when we've been lied to (again) is atrocious.
No wonder our fans have stopped caring about the club and no wonder we are struggling for fifty thousand members (again).
Shut up, take watching this crap lack of composure and lack of effort on a weekly basis and blindly support the club with your membership.
Bloody bullshit.
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(04-28-2018, 09:07 AM)BluePhantom link Wrote:But Cookie... it has always been NEXT YEAR... it NEVER comes :
When was the last time we went through a reset of this magnitude BP? - certainly not in my living memory. Previously we've either bought ourselves out of strife or tried to buy ourselves out and failed. I think this time is different, no shortcuts - still no guarantees of ultimate success of course. I'm prepared to ride along for now though.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(04-28-2018, 11:26 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:When was the last time we went through a reset of this magnitude BP? - certainly not in my living memory. Previously we've either bought ourselves out of strife or tried to buy ourselves out and failed. I think this time is different, no shortcuts - still no guarantees of ultimate success of course. I'm prepared to ride along for now though.
You can watch this Cookie, its along the same lines as being a Carlton supporter, its all about the wait..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wifcyo64n-w
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(04-28-2018, 11:26 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:When was the last time we went through a reset of this magnitude BP? - certainly not in my living memory. Previously we've either bought ourselves out of strife or tried to buy ourselves out and failed. I think this time is different, no shortcuts - still no guarantees of ultimate success of course. I'm prepared to ride along for now though.
Sellers McLure remarked today that we have never attempted a re-build or believed in re-builds prior to this one. I can’t really comment on the first 100 years but this my first experience of our club seriously attempting to build a future around sustained success.
Will it work? Who knows, but it would be a disaster if we didn’t stay the course.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?” Oddball
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(04-28-2018, 11:40 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:You can watch this Cookie, its along the same lines as being a Carlton supporter, its all about the wait..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wifcyo64n-w
Well of course Godot never comes. But we've waited for a few messiahs who never came and entertained a few false prophets before this reset started didn't we?
If this reset doesn't work could it be a case of ? -
"And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and ..."
Reality always wins in the end.
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(04-28-2018, 06:38 AM)Lods link Wrote:I respect his position but I would challenge the fact that because we may not have played the game our support and emotional investment in the club and team is any less than his or any other player.
We come to our positions from different backgrounds.
Some of us were born Blue.
Unlike many players it's the only club we've ever known
And having followed the side we're pretty aware of the sacrifices and dedication the players make.
But at the same time were also aware that the players and coaching staff are well compensated financially for those sacrifices....paid for in part by the very supporters being questioned.
I won't have anyone telling me the kind of supporter I should be.
You can command my respect through your deeds and performance, as DRJ did...but you cant demand my respect.
Folks being questioned are passionate for a reason...it's because they love the club and want it to be successful.
Simple as that!
Agree almost to a word.
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(04-28-2018, 11:57 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Well of course Godot never comes. But we've waited for a few messiahs who never came and entertained a few false prophets before this reset started didn't we?
If this reset doesn't work could it be a case of ? -
"And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and ..."
We need a little bit of devil in our play >  ...1000 years.....already feels like that
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(04-28-2018, 11:21 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:This apathy towards supporters expecting us not to get annoyed when we've been lied to (again) is atrocious.
No wonder our fans have stopped caring about the club and no wonder we are struggling for fifty thousand members (again).
Agree. Not sure what some people expect around here.
13 consecutive losses and 37 rounds < 100 points scored and we should only accept contributions like...
“Bad luck Blue Boys, better luck next time.”
“Hang in there, we need to stick phat.”
“Saw some positive signs today.”
etc., etc., ...
Apart from making this the world’s most boring forum i’d like to think we’re all mature enough to accept differing viewpoints without getting too precious.
Those who think we’re being disloyal/impatient need to understand the sustained success we experienced from 1968 to 1995 was forged from the now famous comment from George Harris who turned to one of his cohort during a game in 1965 and uttered something like, “This is crap and i’m not putting up with it anymore. We need to do something.”
The premiership in ‘68 broke our previously longest drought - 21 years. It’s now been 23. This time around, the club is “doing something” - it’s rebuilding. We all know what that means (basically, be patient) but does anyone really know what it looks like?
If we win the flag in 2020, both camps - the so called loyal supporters :  and the rest of us wil all hold hands and sing ‘Kumbuya’ together. If we win in 2030 the loyalists will say “I told you so” but those of us who were there in ‘68 (Olympic stand, 2nd tier) won’t be around to hear it.
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(04-28-2018, 09:00 PM)IvanAwfulbigone link Wrote:Agree. Not sure what some people expect around here.
13 consecutive losses and 37 rounds < 100 points scored and we should only accept contributions like...
“Bad luck Blue Boys, better luck next time.”
“Hang in there, we need to stick phat.”
“Saw some positive signs today.”
etc., etc., ...
We need some new assistant coaches.
What about these two.
[flash=400,400]https://www.youtube.com/v/4zPbgRZPH8U[/flash]
[flash=400,400]https://www.youtube.com/v/ZmlVMnLZhRM[/flash]
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2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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