2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast

[cookie2]

What you get from tv also is the commentary and analysis. OK, some of it may be ordinary but by the same token some of it is quite useful in understanding the ebb and flow of games and the impact of individual players and the roles they may be playing.

[Jack Burton]

If I'm forced to watch games on tv I usually hit mute, I think 99% of what they say is total crap

[cookie2]

If I'm forced to watch games on tv I usually hit mute, I think 99% of what they say is total crap

Thank you for your insights. 
Interestingly though, how do you know that such a high proportion of what they say is crap if you don't listen to it?

[Jack Burton]

Because I usually start with the sound on, then turn it off when I get sick of it (usually about half way through the first quarter)

[cookie2]

Because I usually start with the sound on, then turn it off when I get sick of it (usually about half way through the first quarter)

Right.

[rocky]

So I got to watch the game last night. Here are my observations;
While H McKay did better than I thought he would a couple of his goals were the result of him being "out the back" of a contest so I'm still concerned about his work ethic. At least he'll get another week to see what he's made of.
We really blew any chance of winning this in the last quarter when we had all the play and continued to take the wrong option when streaming into the forward line. Could argue it was due to a lack of experience but on two occasions it was Simmo and Wright making the dumb decision. Boy we blew it against a very average WC side.
O'Shea is a hack and has had enough chances. Needs to go.
Lamb did nothing and has had enough chances. Needs to go.
Mullett can kick OK but does nothing much else and has had enough chances. Needs to go.
One of either Garlett or SPS need a rest. I'm leaning towards SPS.
Rowe adds a bit of stability to the backline but should never be allowed to kick the ball.
O'brien looked OK. Does add a bit of pace.
Good return to form for Liam Jones (Rowe inclusion?)

Hope they can bring the same intensity to this Friday nights game but I won't hold my breath. Wish it wasn't at Etihad.

[LP]

So I got to watch the game last night. Here are my observations;
While H McKay did better than I thought he would a couple of his goals were the result of him being "out the back" of a contest so I'm still concerned about his work ethic. At least he'll get another week to see what he's made of.

Agreed, we need this kid to watch some Johnno Brown's early games, not use the bad old Casboult type as a role model.

From day one Brown used his size and strength to advantage even if he wasn't a prolific goal scorer early, he worked in a way that created opportunities for every other forward even at the expense of his own success and welfare.

If McKay doesn't learn to use his bulk and presence well have our own version of Joe Daniher, a 200cm small forward difficult to match up on but not really a KPP.  That doesn't help your mediums and smalls at all, it just robs them of their opportunities when the 200cm type competes with them at ground level for the same ball!

I'm dead-set over our KPFs trying to play like Rioli! We need a KPF that creates opportunities for our otherwise utilitarian small and medium forwards and the teams overall performance will increase dramatically. We may actually get to see the ball locked in our F50!

[kruddler]

re McKay.

Stats will show he kicked 4 goals and is a 3rd gamer. That automatically gets a big tick from everyone.

However, watching the game showed that he was lucky to get 4 goals. The free kick he got for a push when he wasn't even touched was about as lucky as you can get. I reckon a couple of others were pretty lucky too.

Positives...
Doesn't matter how you get them, they all count. If you can get them every week. No problem.

Cons...
He won't get them every week, so will need to earn them himself in the future. Can he?? We dont know.

[Jack Burton]

Agree with all of that, but I think he has at least shown enough to deserve a string of games and let's see what he can do

[Thryleon]

The bloke didn't trouble the stats sheet for a half of football.

He won't be the first player to do that, nor the last.

It basically means he's not quite afl ready yet.

That's ok too.  He's shown enough to suggest he should remain a Carlton player and start building towards putting in 4 quarter performances.  Whether that happens at AFL level, or not depends largely on his teamates,  injuries and himself.