(04-16-2018, 06:41 AM)LP link Wrote:We are running out of time Lods, we are too old to be putting up with this tripe!
Even the concept of some respectable Carlton people getting involved in 2018 still looks like a 1960s war between "The Skips and The Wogs!"
Factions are everywhere, unity will be dissolved! :o
Highlighting this early, calling it as we think it be heading, is the only way to fight the good fight!
As I said it's not necessarily what I want...but the question was 'How will Carlton react?'...and a lot of that will depend on 'who' Carlton is at the time.
This Carlton will stay the course...another will not.
Unity is a fragile thing, and we need it for success...but you can't demand unity...you have it inspire it.
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(04-16-2018, 06:48 AM)Lods link Wrote:As I said it's not necessarily what I want...but the question was 'How will Carlton react?'...and a lot of that will depend on 'who' Carlton is at the time.
This Carlton will stay the course...another will not.
Unity is a fragile thing, and we need it for success...but you can't demand unity...you have it inspire it.
I wonder if the AFL would stand idly by if the faction wars break out again? Or would they impose direct rule from AFL House or some other draconian measure?
Reality always wins in the end.
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(04-16-2018, 06:51 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:I wonder if the AFL would stand idly by if the faction wars break out again? Or would they impose direct rule from AFL House or some other draconian measure?
Well make no mistake they have caused this, and they have perpetuated it!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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42 players later and with SOS the mate of the MLG I know who the fall guy is....problem with losing a lot more games than you win with an extension to the rebuild is you lose fans/members and money. The AFL take away your Friday nights and you become Sunday game failures, sponsors get harder to get and the board get nervous and want change. Bolton will get another season but it wouldnt want to be a repeat of how this one has started, it will be interesting how panicked the club is and how we draft either more kids on mass or messiah drafting where we chase hard and pay overs for big names.
Facts are the rebuild hasnt gone the way we planned, either we have gone backwards or other clubs like North have taken big steps forward, I'm going with the latter and that puts the coach in the cross hairs along with his assistants....I'd expect some big changes to Boltons support team next season and a cleanout of his assistants...
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(04-16-2018, 06:48 AM)Lods link Wrote:As I said it's not necessarily what I want...but the question was 'How will Carlton react?'...and a lot of that will depend on 'who' Carlton is at the time.
This Carlton will stay the course...another will not.
Unity is a fragile thing, and we need it for success...but you can't demand unity...you have it inspire it.
The choice is either stay the course or go back to the old "Carlton doesn't rebuild". Within an overall strategy, one can change personnel, but the only two strategies are those. The only change that would make any kind of sense is to change personnel, because the new personnel can do a better job of implementing the "slow build" strategy. Other than that, I fail to see the point, and just like in politics, some won't be able to resist the temptation of instant success, better times and fancy promises.
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(04-16-2018, 06:55 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:42 players later and with SOS the mate of the MLG I know who the fall guy is....problem with losing a lot more games than you win with an extension to the rebuild is you lose fans/members and money. The AFL take away your Friday nights and you become Sunday game failures, sponsors get harder to get and the board get nervous and want change. Bolton will get another season but it wouldnt want to be a repeat of how this one has started, it will be interesting how panicked the club is and how we draft either more kids on mass or messiah drafting where we chase hard and pay overs for big names.
Facts are the rebuild hasnt gone the way we planned, either we have gone backwards or other clubs like North have taken big steps forward, I'm going with the latter and that puts the coach in the cross hairs along with his assistants....I'd expect some big changes to Boltons support team next season and a cleanout of his assistants...
Yes I tend to agree. BB and his assistants have probably got this year to show something but this board appointed him and it would be very reluctant in the immediate term to admit they got it wrong. I think there could possibly be an attempted face-saver e'g' a Roos-like figure appointed at some stage as "Director of Coaching" or some such title but in reality he would be a full time mentor for BB. Whether BB would cop that is open to question of course.
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(04-16-2018, 07:04 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yes I tend to agree. BB and his assistants have probably got this year to show something but this board appointed him and it would be very reluctant in the immediate term to admit they got it wrong. I think there could possibly be an attempted face-saver e'g' a Roos-like figure appointed at some stage as "Director of Coaching" or some such title but in reality he would be a full time mentor for BB. Whether BB would cop that is open to question of course.
Director of Coaching is one of my pet hates, its just another way of saying we dont have complete faith in the coach and we need someone to hold his hand IMHO......dont see Bolton wanting anyone mentoring or holding his hand after doing a apprenticeship with Clarkson...
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(04-16-2018, 07:18 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Director of Coaching is one of my pet hates, its just another way of saying we dont have complete faith in the coach and we need someone to hold his hand IMHO......dont see Bolton wanting anyone mentoring or holding his hand after doing a apprenticeship with Clarkson...
See your point EB, but the board (and SOS for that matter) may well want to try and shore him up for a while since their own knackers would be on the line if BB is not seen as a success.
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(04-16-2018, 07:26 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:See your point EB, but the board (and SOS for that matter) may well want to try and shore him up for a while since their own knackers would be on the line if BB is not seen as a success.
Reckon if push came to shove, the SOS alliance would find a way of keeping their hands pretty clean.
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