2018 Rd 5: Pre-Game Pessimism: Carlton vs West Coast

[Bear]

McKay’s selection isn’t that strange given the circumstances... any tall bloke with a pulse would be considered this week.

[Lods]

I'm not so sure they do Paul, we are on the bottom for a reason and if they were employed in any other business field they would be unemployed now based on results....
IMO Mckay's promotion to the seniors had more to do with dealing with media pressure due to poor results than any great form in the NB's and Cuninghams demotion rates alongside Polson's promotion to the senior team a couple of weeks ago as mystifying at best...

I've been a bit critical of how we're 'playing' this rebuild but if we're choosing teams based on media pressure we are well and truly stuffed.
Has there been a lot of media pressure for McKay to come in though?
Fans are probably split about 50/50 as to whether or not he should be played.... or really have to perform to earn a spot.

[PaulP]

I'm not so sure they do Paul, we are on the bottom for a reason and if they were employed in any other business field they would be unemployed now based on results....
IMO Mckay's promotion to the seniors had more to do with dealing with media pressure due to poor results than any great form in the NB's and Cuninghams demotion rates alongside Polson's promotion to the senior team a couple of weeks ago as mystifying at best...

Bolton and SOS may well turn out to be spuds, but it's far too early to tell IMO. I think the points Bolton makes about kids with few games at AFL level, and also few games together, have merit. I also think his points about the extensive list changes creating unrest and a "Foreign Legion" type atmosphere also have merit. I will wait until we have some stability and kids with games under their belt before I make judgment.

I think about it in terms of someone who's had major surgery (a lot like our list). People come and look at the guy when he's all bandaged up, doped up on painkillers and in traction, and these people think the surgeon is crap because the guy looks awful, and looks worse than he did before surgery - without appreciating there's a stabilization and recuperation period ahead. IMO, we are now in that post operative, bandaged up phase.

At least that's what I'm hoping.

[sandsmere]

A damn good article on Fox Sports website this morning by Dunstall and Brereton comparing our rebuild to Hawthorns 2005 situation. Also Geelongs situation before they won their flag under bommer Thompson.

They both reckon we are on the right track and must keep goimg and it will all gel  in another year or so.

2020 we'll be playing finals if we get the next 2 recruiting periods right I reckon.
Major changes to coaching and recruiting staff now and we are another 5-10 years away.

Stick fat. We're on the way.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I've been a bit critical of how we're 'playing' this rebuild but if we're choosing teams based on media pressure we are well and truly stuffed.
Has there been a lot of media pressure for McKay to come in though?
Fans are probably split about 50/50 as to whether or not he should be played.... or really have to perform to earn a spot.

A simple question then if its not media pressure and not due to any great form in the NB's given our NB's watchers didn rate his game then why is he in the team??
Its a question Bolton gets asked about Harry every week after a loss, hows Harry Mckay going?...BB..he will play when he is ready

[Lods]

A simple question then if its not media pressure and not due to any great form in the NB's given our NB's watchers didn rate his game then why is he in the team??
Its a question Bolton gets asked about Harry every week after a loss, hows Harry Mckay going?...BB..he will play when he is ready

My theory...
Kreuzer out means he needs to be replaced by two for a break even...Phillips and McKay.
If Kreuzer plays Harry doesn't.
I'll repeat...if we're being pressured by media and supporters to select players we may as well give it up.
That is totally unacceptable!
I can't believe that...or I'm screwed! >

[kruddler]

All i want for Harry is for him to hold his head up high all game.

I don't give a stuff if he gets donuts, as long as he doesn't drop his head and sook, he'll be better for it.

[laj]

I'm not so sure they do Paul, we are on the bottom for a reason and if they were employed in any other business field they would be unemployed now based on results....
IMO Mckay's promotion to the seniors had more to do with dealing with media pressure due to poor results than any great form in the NB's and Cuninghams demotion rates alongside Polson's promotion to the senior team a couple of weeks ago as mystifying at best...

Might've been promoted to "take" Charlie's place as a key forward as we may put the latter in the midfield alot more give what we have lost.

[PaulP]

A damn good article on Fox Sports website this morning by Dunstall and Brereton comparing our rebuild to Hawthorns 2005 situation. Also Geelongs situation before they won their flag under bommer Thompson.

They both reckon we are on the right track and must keep goimg and it will all gel  in another year or so.

2020 we'll be playing finals if we get the next 2 recruiting periods right I reckon.
Major changes to coaching and recruiting staff now and we are another 5-10 years away.

Stick fat. We're on the way.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dermott...7b7b55cfe8

[Baggers]

A damn good article on Fox Sports website this morning by Dunstall and Brereton comparing our rebuild to Hawthorns 2005 situation. Also Geelongs situation before they won their flag under bommer Thompson.

They both reckon we are on the right track and must keep goimg and it will all gel  in another year or so.

2020 we'll be playing finals if we get the next 2 recruiting periods right I reckon.
Major changes to coaching and recruiting staff now and we are another 5-10 years away.

Stick fat. We're on the way.

Hear hear. Might get a little darker before the dawn, but the sun will come up IF we stay the course.