2018 Rd 2: Post Game Prattle: Carlton vs Gold Coast

[Shakin77]

We won 6 games last year and lost 2 out of our best 4 players.  We can't afford to have anyone out and need to unearth a few midfielders.

[ElwoodBlues1]

yep 30 lazy, ineffectual ones....

the bloke seemingly can't kick 30m these days....

Agree....kicks were more high than long and gave his teammates no hope, he gave effort and tried but his disposal and decision making was ordinary and often sold his mates into
trouble...tries to do too much, gets caught and then turns it over even though he finds a teammate but usually under pressure and manned up...

[LP]

That was pitiful. It started with Kruezer being out, with Poulson replacing him we weaken three positions, ruck, key forward and key back. Play de Koning who was listed as emergency and we only weaken one position. Both Levi and Weitering looked more comfortable when Jones played in the ruck.

Weitering was a gun in his first season because he was give a key back position to be his own, he was drafted as a key back and because we have a glut of bigger backmen he has been sacrificed because he is the least worst option up forward. Bolton came out and said that he needs to nail down a position this season down back for the sake of his development, but thanks to the stupid selection of Poulson we had to unbalance the team, especially after O'Shea got a call up as well.

We slag off Malthouse for what he did to the club, but he knew what he had with Jakovich at CHB, even though he was capable of playing forward he was a gun at CHB. Leave Weiters there and build around him. Have him and Marchbank intercept, Jones looking after the gorillas and if we need to sacrifice anyone, Plowman enjoy the VFL. The match committee is ruining Jacob Weitering and if it continues and I was JW's manager I'd be looking for a trade.

I know we have this "layered" approach to build the offensive game but why when the game is getting beyond us did we not play a 7 man backline like we have done for the past 2 years? That's the thing with layers, you can put one back on or take them off when required. 

Now here is the real funny thing, we dropped a marking forward in Silvagni (rightly so too) then when we lost Kruezer, we effectively lost another one with Levi having to ruck. Surely we knew that MK was touch & go, so why did we not list a McKay as emergency? Or at least Kerr if we weren't going to play de Koning? What will make the Carlton match committee look really stupid is if Krezuer doesn't come up for next Fridays game.

Unless we have injuries galore I do not want to see Mullet in a Carlton jumper again, he is selfish and crap. O'Shea not much better, Poulson has no tricks and Lamb should only come along when we play Hawthorn. I think back to when we were talking about depth....ha ha ha ha, about as much as a bird bath.

Our skills we ordinary as a whole with only Fisher, SPS and Cripps able to hold their heads up. Cunningham was decent, I like his game and think it can improve but it won't if he's going back and forth from the VFL.

If we were fair dinkum about our injuries and how much they effected this game, play Kruezer in the ruck, Kennedy and Lang in the middle, Pickett up forward and A.Silvagni, Docherty and Williamson down back, and we would have a very different result. Take out Mullet, O'Shea, Byrne, Dow, Lamb, Plowman and Poulson if you were wondering. But that's not going to happen and injuries are all part of the game so we are stuck with a 36 point loss, bad skills, bad team balance and a beaten coaching team.

Have we nominated a rookie to replace Docherty yet?

[ElwoodBlues1]

Weitering is as slow as treacle and the first injury he got to his shoulder has made him timid at the ball, he doesnt want contact and that hit he took today(Bowes I think it was ) probably took what confidence he had left out of him. He need 3 weeks at least in the twos learning how to attack the ball and how to use his smarts to overcome his lack of pace..

[flyboy77]

You haven't watched the game, and you make comments like that! :o

i watched the game, what are you smoking fella?

The Captain who shouldn't be...

[flyboy77]

Yes I noticed that Lods. There were extended periods where nobody seemed to know who would ruck. That buggers up any stoppage strategy we may have had. We missed Bam Bam in this respect.
I kept thinking we looked disorganised. I suspect this applies to the series of events over the past 8 days, not just today.

Amateur hour is what we saw today from the so called (non playing) brains trust....

[ElwoodBlues1]

We won 6 games last year and lost 2 out of our best 4 players.  We can't afford to have anyone out and need to unearth a few midfielders.

Need to unearth some new selectors and a coach who can move with the game and sense momentum swings, appreciate we lost Docherty, MK and Gibbs traded but we didnt learn much from the corresponding game last year.. players like Lyons, Lynch did the damage and we failed to learn anything.
We had one part time ruckman and our Fullback rucking  vs a bloke who is nearly 7 foot, no wonder we struggled.....

[jeza]

Most teams have a Murphy type player.

None of them are made captain.

[LP]

i watched the game, what are you smoking fella?

The Captain who shouldn't be...

Your comments seem to contradict that you watched the game.

Nobody who had watched the game could label Murphy's game lazy, and a lot of his ineffectiveness was because he was winning football inside, despite our pathetic ruck setup, and disposing continually while under pressure to team-mates who wouldn't spread from the contest. I comparison his game was about as statistically effective as Cripps!

If you are focussed on Murphy after that game, you are just providing smokescreens and excuses for many others who have far more to answer for!

Who else do you think needs a rocket?

[deags]

What the fukk was that?
How can we still be so shitt?
No we can't expect to turn things 180 degrees in one off season as someone earlier postulated, but god help us, we shouldn't be still putting in performances like that. There was no sign of improvement, in fact there were signs of going backwards. And fukk the plaudits about last weeks game where we blew a 5 goal lead to be beaten by 5 goals, fukk that shitt. No more. Not good enough.
That was putrid. I almost cried.
I don't know if I have ever seen a worse collective effort from a team.
I love Murph, but seriously, how can anyone defend his effort today. 30 possessions? Did someone in the last quarter call out 42% efficiency? Worst 30 possession game in the history of 30 possession games.
I guess I'll just hope my kid doesnt ask how Carlton went tomorrow. It's getting harder to keep him blue.