2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond

[madbluboy]

I still like the idea of Weitering as a forward. If Weitering was playing in Silvagni's spot last night the tigers would have had their hands full.

[cookie2]

BB has clearly stated that he sees Weitering as primarily being a defender for us going forward. This won't be abandoned after one poor game - he will be given the chance to settle into the role. This is not to say he won't have the occasional sojourn forward.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

My take away from last night's game was ... how freakin' amazing was the 1972 Grand Final!

28.9 (177).  That's TWENTY EIGHT GOALS and nine behinds.

But the past is foreign country. Sigh.

[DJC]

It was disappointing to lose after such a good start but the result was almost inevitable.

I believe our score is the highest kicked against the Tigers at the G for quite a while.  That’s not a bad effort and, if we can maintain that effort and intensity, we’ll trouble most teams and upset more than a few favourites.

What I liked about the game was Bolton’s obvious displeasure at losing.  While he was still positive, I reckon he was seething and I’m sure that attitude is permeating the team.

I would leave the team as it is, apart from any compulsory changes.  Hopefully the nine day break will be good for Kennedy and Kreuzer.

One thing that struck me is that Samo is as hard as a cat’s head and he doesn’t mind inflicting a bit of pain on opponents.

[LP]

Agree deags.

Jack tries his butt off.
He was a pick 50+ selection so was never going to be a world beater. I think he has surpassed all my expectations of him already.
We are desperately short of forwards and he is one of the few who hits the scoreboard regularly.

Ease up on the lad.

Is that consistent with your Weitering stance?

What has SoJ done to justify the support, compared to Weitering's first season?

[mateinone]

I hope you're right about SOS's impartiality. I don't think jack will ever get 40 goals in a season. And in reference to your first paragraph, he, Wright and Levi practically had the forward line to themselves last season. He had to get among the goals.

Lol so we played with 3 forward only?
How the hell did the likes of Lamb or Curnow or anyone else score?

It seems that when people have a view of a player it is close to impossible to shift that view.
If at the start of last season someone told me one of our 19 year olds was going to kick 20 goals, I would have been happy with that.

[Thryleon]

No doubt injuries never help but if you can lose a ruckman against anyone is the tigers. Helped bring casboult into the game.
As I said though potentially playing Cunningham instead of weitering makes the loss of Kennedy less significant.

It's not who we lost that was important it was the fact that we were effectively out on our feet and it showed.  We are a younger not as battle hardened team, tired legs means tired minds and poor decisions which ultimately cost us more than anything.  Malthouse used to say being down a rotation hurts everyone and he's right.  with interchange caps to manage its even harder as you can't bring players off when they're cooked.

Back 6 for years... Agree... But does that mean we get done by small forward lines for years as well?

perhaps but I'd rather they adjust to this now and learn about how to stop it now rather than when we're in a premiership window and wonder how we got done.

[PaulP]

Lol so we played with 3 forward only?
How the hell did the likes of Lamb or Curnow or anyone else score?

It seems that when people have a view of a player it is close to impossible to shift that view.
If at the start of last season someone told me one of our 19 year olds was going to kick 20 goals, I would have been happy with that.

No, I never said we only had 3 forwards. Jed Lamb kicked 6 goals last season. Curnow kicked 20, so I'll give you that.

I'm sorry, but I think Jack is simply too slow, which will forever limit his ability to impact games, and his kicking for goal is not that flash.

And if I'm proven wrong, I'll be the first to admit it.

[tonyo]

Jack earnt his spot through his efforts last year. That doesn;t mean he'll keep that spot this year...

Weiters? It's clearly between the ears, so get him talking to the sports pysch....

Not sure how Levi gets blame here..... :o :o

I feel for Weiters - Richmond has a strange forward line - plenty of fast movers and few big blokes.  He doesn't have a great match up in that instance.  His intercept role seems to have been taken over by Marchbank and he looks a bit lost to say the least.

I think Bolton erred by not moving him forward after Kreuz went down and Casboult was no longer in the forward 50.  We looked pretty toothless going forward after that (Kreuz couldn't move.....).

And can someone please tell Ciaran Byrne that the give and go handball only works if the bloke he is giving it to hasn't got three opposition players on him......

[Lods]

Weitering is too good a footballer not to be in the side.
If there's no match up for him back then play him forward.

I'm not sure we play that match up game anyway...players seem to control zones.
Jones seems to have a roving commission on that backline and plays more a "goalkeeping" role.
What we do lack is defensive small backs and a side like Richmond still exploits that.
Make no mistake...folks talk Richmond down but they're a bloody good side and remind me of some of the West Coast teams at their best.

The coaching staff aren't dopes...Weitering's in the side for a reason and he'll probably get a "low-light" reel this week that will be very beneficial in the long run.
If you're going to drop him for someone like McKay then that player will need to show something special because Weitering more than has him covered at this stage.