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I find it hard to believe that Lehman didn't know anything about it.. but even if he didn't he should fall on his sword. It's all turned to poo on his watch so move him on and let's start a fresh.
I hope Smith can come back from this in 12 months and get back to making runs. ( never to Captain or VC again. )
I wouldnt be fussed if Warner never plays for Australia again... reading between the lines I doubt he will while this current crop are still playing..I can see him selling out with a tell all book ( or paid interview ) and screwing everyone over. Hopefully not.
Bancroft... I feel a little bit for him... he may never get back and hasnt got millions in the bank like the other 2 have. ( but if u do the crime u do the time )
Hopefully we've set the bar and if anyone is stoopid enough to do it again they pay a similar price... I say hopefully because I doubt it.
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Got what they deserved, hopefully it teaches generations to come whats right and wrong. Sick of the attitude "others dot it too". "Play the game as it should be played, at home or far away."
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I guess the immediate concern is to limit the damage as much as possible whilst we get through this series in SA? Maybe then a more comprehensive investigation and review will be conducted by CA - I hope so. It sounds, from what I've heard from a few commentators that there are probably deeper problems within the squad and its culture. We'll see I guess.
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(03-28-2018, 11:23 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon Smith will get another go as he is a topliner...Warner is finished IMO and Bancroft will need a thousand runs a season to make it back given his stupidity....
Lehmann should have been sacked and I reckon the rest of the leadership group are lucky they are our best bowlers....
Maybe Smith and Warner manned up and decided to take all the heat ? Because its pretty hard to believe Starc Hazelwood etc didnt know what was going on...
We will have to wait till Warners interview or book to find out ????
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(03-28-2018, 12:51 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:Not sure Starc has benefited too much in the last two tests.
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Had a big say in the first test win though.
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So, from the investigation
"The investigation revealed that then vice-captain David Warner was behind the plan to alter the condition of the ball, enlisting opening batting partner Cameron Bancroft with carrying it out.
Steve Smith was aware of the plan, but failed to step in and prevent it from actually happening out in the middle of Newlands."
As Warnie has said, there can be no possible reason for Sutherland to not tell the absolute truth (from what they have anyway) in this, so as this sounds like a hastily cobbled together plan in the minutes leading up to the end of the lunch break it is entirely feasable the bowlers were not involved. Smith from the sounds of it, just did not put a stop to it ....and that is his fault & he's got to wear it.
12 month ban....CA pandering to the baying of the media again, just like when they dropped the charges against Harbajan for abusing Symo. Ask Ponting about CAs support for our cricketers someday & see what response you get.
I wonder if KP & Vaughan will be issuing an apology to Lehman now ?........
Mind you, Lehman still has to take responsibility for the culture that lead to this. I'd love Punta to take charge quite frankly. But I'm not sure he'd have the time to devote to the role full time. He'd certainly be a better option than Langer with respect to him as a player.
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(03-28-2018, 08:27 PM)sandsmere link Wrote:Had a big say in the first test win though.
Firstly, I doubt it offers any real benefit at all, morons doing moronic stuff. It's not like the Pakistanis using bottle tops to really gouge the ball surface. Even if they had 40, 60 or 80 grit they would be smoothing out the lumps and crevices that benefit the bowler. Mostly likely it was a piece of 200 grit they often use to clean bat faces.
Secondly, I doubt it was happening in the first test, if it was happening back then or in the Ashes there would now be video footage coming out of it all over the place. FFS, they are not brain surgeons, they used a bright yellow piece of sandpaper, they should have just stuck up a neon sign!
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