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JLT 2018: Carlton vs St Kilda at Ikon on Wednesday
(03-01-2018, 12:34 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:He certainly cracked in though. He's hard at it thats for sure.

Yes, Kennedy didn't have the impact I was hoping for but he is a hard nut and will have more than a few opposition midfielders feeling just a little apprehensive.  I reckon Murphy will really benefit from having Kennedy cracking in.
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Question; did the newbies, collectively, offer more, less or the same as Gibbs?
I realise this is very early in the story.  Given the gushing over Gibbs' game, interesting to see the other side of the deal.
Gibbs got us two picks which went on to become Kennedy and OB.  Kennedy looks a best 22 player already, OB, I'm not sure.
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(03-01-2018, 12:40 PM)DJC link Wrote:Yes, Kennedy didn't have the impact I was hoping for but he is a hard nut and will have more than a few opposition midfielders feeling just a little apprehensive.  I reckon Murphy will really benefit from having Kennedy cracking in.

It looked to me like we were experimenting a lot with the on ball setup a lot in that game.

In the real thing I suspect Cripps, Kennedy , Kreuzer and Dow will take the majority of the centre square work. Plenty to rotate through there though with Ed, Charlie, Murphy, Samo, Lang and Cunningham.
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(03-01-2018, 07:52 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Question; did the newbies, collectively, offer more, less or the same as Gibbs?
I realise this is very early in the story.  Given the gushing over Gibbs' game, interesting to see the other side of the deal.
Gibbs got us two picks which went on to become Kennedy and OB.  Kennedy looks a best 22 player already, OB, I'm not sure.

Paddy Dow probably did more to fill the Gibbs gap than anyone else.

Gibbs is a quality player and will not be replaced by any one player though.  You could argue him in and Paddy playing would have given us more in the short term than o brien and Kennedy.

Long term it makes sense to have gone the route we have and why it had to happen but no one player will "replace" Gibbs potential influence.

Notice no one talking about Daisy?  Obviously his game was pretty good particularly when the game was running away from us in the third quarter.
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(03-01-2018, 09:39 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Paddy Dow probably did more to fill the Gibbs gap than anyone else.

Gibbs is a quality player and will not be replaced by any one player though.  You could argue him in and Paddy playing would have given us more in the short term than o brien and Kennedy.

Long term it makes sense to have gone the route we have and why it had to happen but no one player will "replace" Gibbs potential influence.

Notice no one talking about Daisy?  Obviously his game was pretty good particularly when the game was running away from us in the third quarter.

I don’t think any one player will replace Gibbs.  We have several new and developing players with different abilities and attributes who will more than cover his absence in a very different midfield set up.

As for Daisy, he played his role and was important at times, but some of his decision making and disposals were woeful.  I guess we can put that down to blowing the cobwebs out ...
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(03-01-2018, 09:39 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Notice no one talking about Daisy?  Obviously his game was pretty good particularly when the game was running away from us in the third quarter.

I'll talk about Daisy. Thought he was terrible and wont be in the side round 1. Don't have anything against him but can't see him getting a game all year actually (baring serious injuries)
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(03-01-2018, 09:54 PM)DJC link Wrote:I don’t think any one player will replace Gibbs.  We have several new and developing players with different abilities and attributes who will more than cover his absence in a very different midfield set up.

As for Daisy, he played his role and was important at times, but some of his decision making and disposals were woeful.  I guess we can put that down to blowing the cobwebs out ...

I feel sorry for Daisy, if he isn't clearly BoG by some margin he gets bagged mercilessly, in that JLT game he was clearly among our best and gets no credit.

The coach wanted creative and it was the old blokes including Kreuzer, Thomas, Wright, Murphy, Plowman and Simmo that got busy creating those opportunities for the likes of Dow, Cripps, Pickett and Garlett that everyone is raving about. The fans focus on the people in the final link and ignore the acts and events that started it all off! But quite often it was the older blokes causing the Aints structures to break down, or the older blokes forcing the turnover. It's not always the case that you have to have your hands on the ball either, some of those runs and leads wouldn't have happened if guys like Wright and Thomas hadn't created space by dragging Aints players away from the ball.
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(02-28-2018, 09:56 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yes, Weitering is pure talent and will play when available, even if he goes forward (which I'm not really a fan of) or plays a swingman type role.

Weitering is a gun.  Why are people questioning him?  Because a few people on here said he was poor last year?  Sheep.  Actually he was ok last year if you look at the SEN rankings per game.  He often received a 7/10 for his game.  Not bad when you are 20.
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(03-01-2018, 10:15 PM)rocky link Wrote:I'll talk about Daisy. Thought he was terrible and wont be in the side round 1. Don't have anything against him but can't see him getting a game all year actually (baring serious injuries)

Ridiculous comment.  He was one of our best.
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(03-01-2018, 11:06 PM)Inboltswetrust link Wrote:Weitering is a gun.  Why are people questioning him?  Because a few people on here said he was poor last year?  Sheep.  Actually he was ok last year if you look at the SEN rankings per game.  He often received a 7/10 for his game.  Not bad when you are 20.

Yes, I find peoples bias extraordinary.

For example, SoJ gets pumped up here, he's also a 2nd year player. Yet his rankings relative to Weitering are ordinary, yet apparently we are dumping Weitering and keeping SoJ. I just have to assume it's an nepotism thing or something like that, because it makes no sense from the football or the stats.
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